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    HOWARD;
    When i took that venture on you would not believe the secrecy, i thought i was talking to the freemasons(or maybe i was lol)

    because it wasnt there idea they wouldnt share info i even said i would say it was there idea if there only after publicity.
    but it was so negative from those 2 groups and D.H.B. that thought well lets move on to something that will be achieved.
    frustrating i know

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