Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 14,118
#1
Many local groups and workers and the town need the support of the D,H,B, they have for many years given out amounts of money to help the local groups, and at this time they do it even more.
So we need to give them more support not keep on running them down and in return we will see them helping the groups and town more. Yes we have seen them get rid of some very good workers and get the work done by outside a company but I am sorry to say that is the road most big companys work now the ships are doing the same.But it still brings work to a lot of local men and women.
For the very first time we are seeing the town climb out of that big black hole it has been in over 40 years and town now looks like it might have a good future.
But when the town was in that big hole for all them years the only thing that was not in that with them was the port.
It has by care fully looking after any funds it has made by putting it back into the port,and in doing that it has held the no 1 spot.For the size of the company with a very big turn over it does not make alot of money about 50 to 6o million per year which is not a great deal.you can turn and say Ha but the top persons running it are getting well paid ,and you would be right in thinking that way ,but the port need that kind of person running it, some of them could walk into a job with more cash then they are getting here that is why theyare paid that amount.The port needs them more then the other way round.
So to get best out of the D,H,B, the councils and the groups need to support the D,H,B,
The port can get along without that support but that is not the way to go,they are trying to give a helping hand more today then ever before in the building of the town so please do not cut the off the hand that feeds you.By giving them more support the Town and the port will grow and get better.Small groups like the forums are not helping even that they are just small in numbers by keep on running the D..H. B. Down.
Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,931
#2
I have come to the conclusion that Vic has been given a secret publicity job by the DHB in an attempt to improve their image.
He seems to believe that DHB are perfect and have been beneficial to the town whereas I suspect the vast majority of this town's residents believe the exact opposite. When my husband was on the ferries over 30 years ago the discussions often revolved around the fact that DHB did nothing for this area of Kent or the town.
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Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#3
At that time they had to keep with the port with giving out funds. I have nothing to do with the port and who is running it They are not perfect but trying to do the right thing at this time.
In some eyes they cannot do anything right and are always in the wrong well that is not true .And last Sunday shows they get it right some of the time, They were not the only ones that turned it into a great day but they played a big part in doing just that.
Reginald Barrington
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 17 Dec 2014
- Posts: 3,261
#4
Vic the town was in a black hole but you fail to recognise the reason it was there. Namely DHB not investing those millions back into the port or town and DDC taking over 20yrs to finalize the st james project and the millions of wasted taxes that cost.
Your memory is short; Mr Goldsmith trying to sell and rake in millions for himself, have you forgotten it was us, Dovers residents that shouted the loudest and made the government listen, that in turn has forced the port to change direction.
You also seem unable to see that we (by which I mean all who are suspicious of the DHB's motives) do support the western redevelopment, but only want reassurances that there will remain public access to our nations heritage and a beach front to be proud of.
Have a look at Rotterdam and see what we could have.
you say don't bite the hand that feeds you, but when it's other hand is picking your pockets I think it could be justified.
It's great that you are willing to speak your mind Vic but you should look back through your own posts over the years and see how your opinion flip flops back and forth, and is almost always opposite to that of the general consensus of forum members, something that stood out in your councillor years as well.
Unfortunately on this occasion Vic your opinions are simply wrong.
Arte et Marte
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#5
The D.H.B as always invested in the port look at it from the 1950s to what it is now. As for investing in the Town the rules would not allow that. .Any projects within the town and district is the job of the D,D,C,as you have said D..H.B. have no imput to that. I have in the pass not always supported what the D.H.B. have said and done but over many years the heads of the dept etc have moved on and I now see that thy are trying to get on better with the town and both councils I do think that the residents have helped over the years in trying to get the D.H.B. and council to work with each other and that is happing today.
You are also right in saying my opinion has been some what back and forth but that is because I have seen the changes that are going a head now. You must move forward and do not keep looking backwards ,what has been in the pass should stay there. And also I agree that a lot of the time I think opposite to some of the forum members that post thats not hard to do as there are so few that post anyway.But I am not going to agree with members if I do not .That would also be very boring .But thank you for your good post and the way you worded it without
being rude.Because my opinions are not the same as some does not mean I am wrong or they are, it is just my opinion, time will tell who was right or wrong as I am getting old I might not be a round to see this one out .
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
- Posts: 8,664
#6
A better thread title might have been: Don't bite the hand that is around your throat. A few years ago the port commissioned a consultant's report entitled: How to distance the port of Dover from its decaying hinterland. I am trying to get a copy via an FOI request of DfT but I am not optimistic.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Reginald Barrington- Location: Dover
- Registered: 17 Dec 2014
- Posts: 3,261
#7
Thank you Vic, there is nothing that irks me more than people being rude, upset or violent just because they disagree.
I hope you're right on this one Vic, I'm just not convinced yet
Arte et Marte
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#8
Thank you Mr Barrington.Again Mr Garstin you are looking backwards even if there is a report it is outdated by now members of the D.H.B. have moved on like time .
Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
#9
vic,you have to look backwards to move forward.a backward glance and a understanding of past mistakes make going forward easier,
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
#10
Agreed Brian learning lessons from history should shape our future intentions.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 14,118
#11
I will not say you are wrong by that thinking.
Reginald Barrington- Location: Dover
- Registered: 17 Dec 2014
- Posts: 3,261
#12
Arte et Marte
Guest 705- Registered: 23 Sep 2010
- Posts: 661
#13
However DHB have done their utmost to wriggle out of the prospect of engaging community directors.
Never give up...
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#14
Sorry sir but thy do not need them the public do the job better then any community directors could do and the D.H..B do take note of what is said by them.