Guest 645- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#1
As I prepare to take the family to 10am mass at the local Little Sisters of the Poor convent today,Palm Sunday. I saw this story of an electrician who faces the sack for displaying a small palm cross on the dashboard of his company van.Former soldier Colin Atkinson has been summoned to a disciplinary hearing by the giant housing association where he has been employed for 15 years because he refuses to remove the symbol.
Mr Atkinson, a regular worshipper at church, said: 'The treatment of Christians in this country is becoming diabolical...but I will stand up for my faith. he has had an 8in-long cross made from woven palm leaves attached to the dashboard shelf below his windscreen His bosses at publicly funded Wakefield and District Housing in West Yorkshire - the fifth-biggest housing organisation in England - have demanded he remove the cross on the grounds it may offend people or suggest the organisation is Christian.
Marek
I think therefore I am (not a Tory supporter)
Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
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#2
Another mad Labour doctrine Marek?
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Guest 645- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#3
Jan
Very true it is Labour run with an overall majority of 5 I think ,one Tory changed to Labour. It's still a crazy ruling considering the leader has a poster of Che Gueverra on his wall (allegedly)
Marek
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#4
might be a lot easier if we adopted the french system where no religious paraphernalia is allowed in schools or workplaces?
would stop all these silly situations.
Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
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#5
HOWARD/MAREK
I fully agree with your postings, but we need to be even handed about our approach to this.
I know someone who whenb i recently came in contact with him became aware he was one of these hap[py clappy new church, thats fine and not my cup of tea but up to him, it was alright until he started preaching to me that in itself would have been a challenge lol
i did request he no longer did so as i wasnt interested.
he has tried it twice since each time iv tried to be polite in tewlling him im not interested.
the last time he managed to get a few words out, and said dont you feel better
i told him i felt no different,
this man is doing no justice for his church, and is wasting his time on me.
what's more important is that i don't wish to fall out with this geezer but if he continues i think i will.
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#6
A bit different to a discreet palm cross on your dashboard........
Guest 660- Registered: 14 Mar 2008
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#7
Sorry Keith I will stop it now,old lordy lordy clap hands!
If you knew what I know,we would both be in trouble!
Guest 645- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#8
Howard
Why the hell should we Christians give up our right to display a palm cross in our schools or car windows. I thought the UK was supposed to be a Christian country with the Queen as the head of the Cof E church.
Have you ever lived in a muslim country? Try telling them that displays of their religion in their own country is offensive to you as a foreigner to their shores and see how far that gets you. The local nick with a public flogging or worse to look forward to.
I am all for immigration welcoming their gifts,talents,hard work and religious diversity but not at the expense of my right to exercise my democratic freedom and choice of religion.
Marek
I think therefore I am (not a Tory supporter)
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#9
marek
i did say schools and work places, in this instance the chap involved was in a company van, therefore a workplace.
yes we are nominally a christian country with the monarch as head of the church of england, but a tiny minority of people are christians.
just a look at church attendances shows that to be the case, church weddings survive mainly because the pictures look better with a church in the background.
it is now becoming standard for many that funerals do not even have hymns or prayers, but the favourite music of the deceased instead.
Guest 645- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#10
Religion Number %
Christian 42,079,000 71.6%
Muslim 1,591,000 2.7%
Hindu 559,000 1.0%
Sikh 336,000 0.6%
Jewish 267,000 0.5%
Buddhist 152,000 0.3%
Other religion 179,000 0.3%
Not stated 4,289,000 7.3%
No religion 9,104,000 15.5%
Total religious 45,163,000 76.8%
As per 2001 census. It will be interesting to learn what the latest census figures are in comparison.
Marek
I think therefore I am (not a Tory supporter)
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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#11
When Charles I tried to impose the common prayer book in the Scottish Presbyterian Church, the Scots called it popish trinketry.
The king sent an army to Scotland, to flex some muscle, then withdrew.
The Scots then sent a Covanenter army down south.
The Earth shook, Hadrians wall collapsed, bagpipes were heard far and wide, and Parliament cautiously decided to ask the Scots to remain in Northumbria and paid for their provision.
Guest 645- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#12
Thanks for that....so QE2 should send bagpipe bearing troops to Wakefield to shake the car so the palm cross will fallout.
Alex,my dear chap,you do come out with some unrelated claptrap. Perhaps you should discontinue your medication.."it aint doin' you no good boy".
Marek
I think therefore I am (not a Tory supporter)
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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#13
Marek, try reading the above verse in its context with the thread: suppose the boss of the company, in whose car the palm-cross is hanging, is a Covanenter!
