howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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This is what happens when you let a Women get in the driving seat,
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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certainly has an interesting track record, just a matter of time before she flounces away from the blues.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marta_AndreasenGuest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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I know this lady she is very nice but this thing beween her and the leader has been going on for some years now. So it had to happen and it has,she might come back with ladys you never can tell.
Paul Watkins- Location: Dover
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She is probably one of the most straightforward UKIP MEP's.
She comes with a track record of challenging the EU Commission & their accounts.
Keith if I were you you might consider editing your posting.
Watty
Guest 715- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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Paul Watkins wrote:She is probably one of the most straightforward UKIP MEP's.
She comes with a track record of challenging the EU Commission & their accounts.
Keith if I were you you might consider editing your posting.
Watty
Don't know about the first part of your post Paul but the last line is spot on.
Audere est facere.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Any lost to a party at this time is not good,but it happens to all partys.Please read my post in the last two years topic.
Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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Nigel Farage is a big hitter politician and like all big hitters they tend to be maverick and tend to roll over people
But if a party's structure is grounded in party democracy, it will all ways be the majority views that win the day over individuals.
Ukip is a party of commonsense policy directions
Individuals cannot stray too much from these common rules.
Some of my views would not get support from the majority in ukip , that's just politicks
This women exposed massive theft within the EU and for this we all owe her gratitude.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Mr Farage comes as a one man package,very good talker,great showman,very good leader, and none of the other partys can match him he out wits them all the time. I have had meals out with him and been to meetings along side him.and some years ago I said to him in around about way, I think you should stand to one side at timesand let others come to the front and take some of the lime light,it is not good the the public only see you.Even at UIKP big meetings they all are yes persons and will say nothing against their leader even if they think they need to,in my way of thinking this is not good for the party, but who am I to say it anyway.
Keith Sansum1
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Well looks like the lady in question will soon tire of the mouse then return to ukip(that is if ukip survives that long)
from the thread you can see a vote for ukip is a wasted one
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Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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From Sky News:
Marta Andreasen referring to Nigel Farage:
"UKIP is his plaything to mould and shape in any way he sees fit, regardless of the views of others, myself included.
His actions, surrounding himself with an old boys club of like-minded sycophants, are dictatorial in sharp contrast to those of David Cameron, who has shown he can listen, adapt and do what is right for the country, not just for personal gain."
Well I remember in 2010 proposing to UKIP a policy on fast-food diets, which was supported by a well-written article of mine.
My proposal: that UKIP take this policy of mine on board and campaign for decent standards of fast-food meals, and for a regulated control of what these foods contain, with specific indications of the contents for customers to be able to see and understand.
The reply came, that the request was being forwarded to the UKIP policy team.
That was the end of it! UKIP fell asleep. Never heard from the Policy Team about my proposal.
Anno Domini 2013
The great EU meat scandal breaks out, horse meat disguised as beef from EU members Poland and Romania hits Ireland, Britain, France. and other EU member states, and the Irish Authorities release knowledge of the ingredients present in cheap filler meals offered to poor and (illiterate) Irish and British people, namely, leftovers and bits and pieces from Polish abattoirs sent all across Europe to the furthest shores of Britain and Ireland.
Even when this stuff is genuinely beef and pork, it is leftover rubbish from Polish (or any) abattoirs.
UKIP could have scored points, saying how they warned the people, the Government, and indeed many European countries too, and had campaigned for transparency in fast-food meals, and for decent food - and not hidden junk food - landing on people's plates.
But hey ho, Alexander would have scored a point, with a good policy, albeit shared with UKIP.
But instead UKIP SLEPT, as they always have done no mater WHICH policy I ever proposed, and I wonder why?
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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two different issues entirely alex, fast food diets suggest that you are talking about takeaways not supermarket food. besides ukip is a libertarian party which suggests to me that they would have no truck with such an idea.
Brian Dixon
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cor blimy strange bed fellows,a horse for a beef burger.made with 100% beef,horse and pork,and dont forget the onions herbs and spices.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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These are not two different issues, Howard. My work referred as much to takaways as to supermarket foods.
Had my proposal been accepted, the EU meat scandal may have been avoided.
Further to that, the UKIP policy team never responded.
I am not aware of any one policy of mine that made headway in UKIP.
Which brings us direct to Marta Andreasen's comments.
And I cannot understand why a libertarian party should be silent about cheap junk-food fed to people who are not aware of its contents. Does this make sense? To me it doesn't.
Finally, in 2010, UKIP was not officially a libertarian party. This term came up afterwards, in 2011.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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they have always been a libertarian party and would never interfere with the choice of what people eat and drink. the issues of the current fraud or adulterated grub is another issue altogether.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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the latest scare,letiuse,cuecumbers and tomatos all have traces of ukip horsesh##t
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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Brian the thread title was defection, without the a.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Well, Howard, just to specify, news reports show that horse meat has appeared in takeaways too, so the issue of fast-foods, be they of takeaway or supermarket provenance, is one issue.
But my point was not the choice of what people eat or drink, but the contents they unknowingly eat or drink.
If a party cannot take that seriously, and then a few years later we all find out that it became a big issue, not to mention the already on-going issue that the NHS has been bringing up on obesity and unhealthy diets caused by junk-food, then, quite frankly, what have my policies to do with UKIP?
Which is all related to Marta Andresen's view on a one-man party where the views of other members don't really count.
Moreover, if someone proposes a policy, then the party should say: yes, or no.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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well you tried peter
maybe alexander is embarrassed about it
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