17 September 2010
19:1671353#1
Interesting video (link below) regarding Big Pharma, none of which surprises me by the way.
However, on such an important issue, don`t we really deserve better than this. Is there anyone out there who has actually got honest intentions to look after and serve our best interests? Sometimes I doubt it.
Or do you think differently?
( will probably need a "copy & paste" ) Hope it works!
Ross Miller
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17 September 2010
19:5971361#2
Some questions
Why is she an ex pharma rep?
What axe does she have to grind?
What do you actually believe most medicines are designed to do?
I actually know the answer to the second one in terms of your average person - they believe what the media tells them, which habitually and regularly misinterprets not only big pharmas PR but more worryingly properly peer reviewed science and then reports that.
Sensible people should do their own research to see what out there really works and whether the formal research and clinical trials showed it to deal with the disease/illness or just managed the symptoms. A very large minority of medicines tend to do the latter rather than the former, but if it makes you more comfortable and frees up your immune system to fight the underlying illness then good.
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17 September 2010
20:1971367#3
Ross, just a very quick one ( as usual I`m in the middle of getting dinner! )
As someone who is obviously well up on this sort of thing, could I ask you a genuine question as to what you think of the Dr. Mercola site? I can`t see that he would have any axe to grind but he seems to share the view of the lady in the vid.?
All the best to you and your partner by the way!
Cheers.
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17 September 2010
23:1671388#4
I find it interesting that he employs similar marketing tactics to the drug companies he criticises to promote his alternative therapies, as well as the warnings he has received from the FDA for failing to comply with their rules on selling health products.
I found a lot of what he had to say is nothing new and is basically standard healthy living advice - balanced diet and exercise
I find his dietary advice to be unconvincing, I certainly would not follow it without seeing considerably more evidence of the data that as a scientist he surely has to back his assertions, or is he again using big pharma tactics to promote his book and other branded products?
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18 September 2010
01:3871394#5
Hmmm, interesting. Thanks for the response Ross.
I know that we`ve gone over similar ground before but It really is difficult to know who to trust these days. I don`t particularly hold the FDA in high esteem though, even they`ve had a few "dubious" moments.
Personally, I`ve always thought that Dr. M. did in fact back up most of what he says but I guess it all comes down to who you believe. Same as the " Climate Change " issue. At the end of the day, you pays your money and takes your choice.
Having said that, I agree somewhat with you regarding the manner of "marketing" his products. Especially when these guys all appear to be exceptionly wealthy!
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18 September 2010
09:0271420#6
If anyone has any advice on the following i'd appreciate it
I posses only 0.6 magnesium level despite i/v and now 6 suck n chew tabs per day.
Low body salts
No autoimmune system so have to take vitamin k tab each day.
If anyone has any medical advice or old wives tales then please divulge....I'm at a loss.....
Marek
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18 September 2010
10:1871440#7
Marek for the magnesium and vitamin K the best dietary sources are dark green leafy veg, nuts, seeds, bananas, dried apricots, avocados, peas and beans, soy and whole grains - so you might be better off looking at a vegetarian diet.
You should probably also moderate your alcohol consumption as a number of studies have shown that alcohol increase magnesium excretion
Some of the other things that you might consider are warm baths with Epsom Salts (you will need about 600g of Salts per bath)
[All from a quick search of the interwebs]
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18 September 2010
11:0271449#8
Ross
Thanks. I was too scared to look at causes and remedies...it's like reading the side effects of taking caertain...once yov've read 'em you feel like your suffering from it. No alcohol has passed my lips for yonks...due to above effect.Also have to be careful as not allowed any iron in my diet.
Really appreciated.
Marek
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18 September 2010
11:3071451#9
Hi Marek,
It seems as though, to say the least, you`re unfortunately going through a bit of a rough spell at this present time. As you will no doubt be fully aware, in no way am I a qualified medical practioner, just someone who has an interest in the subject. For this reason and not being fully aware of your own situation I can only suggest what I might try should I be in your position.
For starters, has anyone actually told you WHY you have this condition? In other words, why have you got it and not the guy next door? Admittedly, some things can appear to hit people at random but very often there`s an underlying cause.
As far as I`m aware a lot of illness`s are triggered simply due to a poor immune system. Baring in mind all the tests that you`ve undoubtedly gone through, has anybody checked your blood level for vitamin D3? I know this sounds very simplistic but a lack of certain vitamins can have dire consequences. ( ie, lack of Vit. C and the resultant death through scurvy in the old days! )
This is where the difficult bit comes in, IF your reading is low you could consider
taking a good quality high dose of Vit. D3 which should also have Vit. K2 included in the same capsule. I say "difficult bit" because your healthcare professional may well "poo poo" the idea. But as long as it doesn`t interact with anything else you may be taking I wouldn`t have thought it would do you any harm. Virtually nobody has ever died from taking vitamins but many thousand have by taking medicinal drugs. IF, you thought this may be an option it would probably be wise to have your blood level of D3 monitored at regular intervals to avoid any possible overdosing.
For good measure I would also take a mega dose of Vit.C. Vit.C is not stored in the body so it`s difficult to overdose on this. You would know if your system has had enough as you would start having "the runs". Not pleasant but not terminal!
For a general "boost" to the immune system I would also take a good quality Krill Oil supplement and use Himalayan crystal salt which contains about eighty or so minerals, many of which we lack in our usual daily diet.
Exercise is also highly important but your condition may well prevent you from doing much? It would also be advisable to limit your alcohol intake if you do in fact partake of the liquid stuff? ( this is the really hard one! )
Finally, the other important factor would be to reduce as much of your stress levels as you possibly can. Easier said than done of course, especially when you have the understandable worry of your illness.
Marek, I can`t stress highly enough that the above is simply just my own limited suggestion of something that you could possibly consider. If nothing seems to be working for you at the moment it might be worth a try, as long of course as your doctors are happy that there will be no "interactions" with any of your prescribed medications.
Best of luck mate.
PS. Marek, just posted this before I saw Ross`s good words of advice!
18 September 2010
13:1571454#10
Lots to digest (forgive the pun) there Marek me old mucker. Of course, if all that seems too much or a bit risky, there is a surefire solution for stress (gonna be killed in a nasty way by Bern for this, but what the heck), have a spliff.
I know it's outrageous, I should know better, what am I thinking even suggesting such a thing, but, cannabis/hemp has proven relaxant qualities. You can get the same effect from hemp oil, but it takes a good dosage to have any effect and, let's face it, unless you're the sort of bloke who gets off drinking the leftover contents of sardine tines, not very enjoyable.
Whatever route you take, keeping chatting to us, we are all here for you mate.
19 September 2010
16:0571567#11
Marek,
Further to my previous post and as an afterthought, you`re not on "Statins" by any chance are you?
19 September 2010
16:4771571#12
MArek - I'm not going to comment other than to say hugs to you, which you already know. I am not qualified to do anything other than hug you!!
Sid - I agree with you.......sit down, take a deep breath (and hold it.......!!) and wonder why you might have thought I wouldn't.......?
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19 September 2010
17:0471572#13
John, Sid, Ross and Bern
Many thanks for your suggestions, the contents of which I will seriously consider.
The condition is inherited, I produce far too much iron which attacks my system.
Luckily I don't suffer from stress. The vitamins you suggest I will put before my Doctor.
I'm not allowed statins cos my liver is not functioning at the moment. So I can't overload my organs.
I'm following a strict diet at present which has resulted in my losing 2 stone. Hurrah!
Bern Thanks for the hugs that's just what the Doctor ordered.
Will keep you informed
Marek
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