Guest 690- Registered: 10 Oct 2009
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22 August 2010
15:2566684#1
Forty five year`s seperate these two picture`s taken in South Street Deal. You haven`t got to be a bus enthusiast to enjoy seeing these then and now picture`s. These colour albums from Ian Allan are full of human interest as well as the constantly changing backgroud scenery, not always for the better. Many picture`s also picture Dover. Who wouldn`t be interested in a bus coming up Biggin street for example in year`s gone by, with all the contemporary shop`s in view?
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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22 August 2010
15:4066689#2
that pink house in the picture is not only stunning but has great historical connections.
forget the lady's name but she was a famous poet or writer and well knownn in london social circles about 300 years ago.
perhaps one of our deal members can fill in the details?
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22 August 2010
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Guest 651- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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22 August 2010
15:4866694#4
Elizabeth Carter (16 December 1717 - 19 February 1806) was an English poet, classicist, writer and translator, and a member of the Bluestocking Circle.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_CarterBeen nice knowing you :)
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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22 August 2010
15:5366696#5
Just around the next st is the old Deal hangmans house just by the carpark up till afew years ago the sigh was still up by the door.Great place DEAL we love going over there.
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22 August 2010
15:5866698#6
The 'pink house' in picture was, I think, the home of Elizabeth Carter, "That Wonderful Bluestocking" of Deal:
She was born in 1717, and was the daughter of Dr Nicholas Carter, one of the six preachers at Canterbury Cathedral who had a perpetual curacy at Deal. He undertook her education, though finding her a dull child, advised her to abandon hope of Greek and Latin. But she had great determination and toiled heroically at her studies, burning the midnight oil, taking snuff and eating green tea and coffee to keep herself awake.
She did not hunger after literary fame, but began the great work of her life, her translation of Epictetus, simply in order to oblige a friend, and was then persuaded to publish it. Her work brought her instant and lasting renown in Europe, a thousand pounds profit at once and independence for life.
She was a queen of the bluestockings and a first favourite in learned circles, whose leaders would send a sedan chair or a carriage to take her out to dinner and back again, so that she rarely dined at home in London.
She was a happy scholar, except when a mistake in a line of Homer ket her awake for a night. She b eat the bishops over a translation of two verses in the New Testament. Everybody loved her, no one more than John son, who allowed her to write two papers for his Rambler. She died in London in 1806, and lies in the burial ground of Grosvenor Chapel.
(information from Arthur Mee's Kent)
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22 August 2010
19:0866732#7
Howard,
The lady was Elizabeth Carter .
In my years as a callow youth I lived in the pub the Walmer Castle where my father was landlord. You can make out the sign on the right of the bottom photo.
Watty
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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22 August 2010
21:1166778#8
interesting stuff paul. always wondered why the "walmer castle" pub was next to the bus stop.
i do not know if your dad is still with us, i doubt whether he would approve of it now though, all the stuff in the windows seems to promote alcopops and two for one deals for youngsters intent on getting "elephants trunk".
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22 August 2010
21:2566795#9
Just caught the Walmer Castle on the right there in this image from last month PaulW mention`s above. Jogged my memory as well, as I took this image to ask about that big ball on the weather vane which goes up and down, though I haven`t been there long enough to suss out how often it does so. I think someone may have told me on here before but I`ve forgotten.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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22 August 2010
21:3566810#10
i think you mean the time ball tower colin, was very important in the 19th century.
it is open to the public at certain times, very interesting, used to tell seafarers when they were about to crash into something.
22 August 2010
21:3666812#11
Otherwise known as "dropping a b......." oops, can't say that here!
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22 August 2010
21:4066819#12
And when a ship crashed into something Howard, would a deck hand shout too late, balls up?
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Guest 651- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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22 August 2010
22:1666839#13
Yes a Time Ball dropped at 1pm from an electrical signal from Greenwich.
Now a fibreglass replica I think i is
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Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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23 August 2010
06:4066854#14
A few years ago when I was trying to promote Dover District, I made a document up of all the historic sites and attractions in Dover, Deal (including the Time-Ball Tower) and Sandwich and other local areas.
It took quite a while to complete - putting together the research and images. It was converted into a pdf file for speedier transmission and put in a Coach Drivers Club monthly supplement and 2006 year book as the start of making Dover a destination.
It was put on the Dover Guest House Association website, it may have been put on the Hoteliers web-site too and one or two individual guest houses have it on their web-sites - including I believe, Blakes of Dover in Castle Street; Peter there has said it is the most visited part of his web-site.
WCCTA would not support any more initiatives from me - including promoting Dover District at a Group Travel exhibition at Stoneleigh Park in Warwickshire; holding a Familiarisation Trip for coach companies in Dover Town Hall or anything else for that matter, so working on making Dover a destination and many other ideas I had, were just ignored - nothing's changed then !!
Roger
23 August 2010
10:1466887#15
Roger, surely you of all people should know that bodies such as WCCTA and others similar are nothing more than talking shops for those who like to feel important and drink tea?
Keith Sansum1
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2 September 2010
12:2568441#16
Cor theres some changes there, trouble is i recall a lot of the old pictures lol
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