CSCS Card

• Guest 687

  • Registered: 2 Jun 2009
  • Posts: 513
  16 March 2015     19:41279867
  #1      
  I was looking for a job for my grandson on an employment website. There were lots of vacancies for labourers but they all required a CSCS card, does anyone know what one is?
• howard mcsweeney1

  • Location: Dover
  • Registered: 12 Mar 2008
  • Posts: 62,352
  16 March 2015     19:56279868
  #2      
  Here we are Ken seems fairly new with more change coming in May.
  
  
  
  http://www.cscs.uk.com/
• Guest 687

  • Registered: 2 Jun 2009
  • Posts: 513
  16 March 2015     21:38279872
  #3      
  Cheers Howard
• Guest 745

  • Registered: 27 Mar 2012
  • Posts: 3,370
  17 March 2015     16:59279891
  #4      
  CSCS is a money making con that's been stuck on to construction workers.
  Every 3 years they get to take money from men who work in construction.
  
  Theirs a long line of health and safety con cards that workers have to update to keep the training industry and colleges on fat salaries.
  
  One pen pusher will create 2 pen pushers ,,and on and on.
• howard mcsweeney1

  • Location: Dover
  • Registered: 12 Mar 2008
  • Posts: 62,352
  17 March 2015     17:37279892
  #5      
  That was my first reaction but if we hark back to the 90's and we had an influx of refugees claiming to have fled Kosovo employers would happily sign them up for work on building sites for £ 20 a day. No hard hats or steel toe capped boots were worn and no questions asked.
• Guest 1348

  • Registered: 20 Sep 2014
  • Posts: 276
  17 March 2015     18:07279895
  #6      
  I would rather some training that you are kept up to date with especially when it is somewhere that has so many dangers. It is similar to first aid that is only 3 years and I have done it recently and is very different to when I done it in past.
  At least you know that a person who has a certain card has had a certain level of training and it is up to date, plus some employers pay for renewal (like forklift licences).
• Guest 745

  • Registered: 27 Mar 2012
  • Posts: 3,370
  17 March 2015     19:21279903
  #7      
  And most don't help you pay Darren.
  
  
  If your city & gilds trained, you have dun lots of safety during training ,we now have a massif industry in health & safety, and all they think of is ways to extract money. And over load men and ,firms with bullsh...
  
  you even need a permit to use steps on a building sites.
  
  
  We have people driving machines all their life ,but every 3 or for years ,the safety zealots get you back so they can stick their hand in your pockets for some more cash.
  
  Fuelling all this bull sh... is the tool hire companies lobbying politicians to pile on more regulations ,so they can rake it in supplying all this extra equipment.
  
  The latest con is to have men trained in asbestos awareness ,every 12 months.
  ching ching more cash.
• howard mcsweeney1

  • Location: Dover
  • Registered: 12 Mar 2008
  • Posts: 62,352
  17 March 2015     19:29279904
  #8      
  Going off slightly at a tangent Regent Coaches drivers had to do a course every so often that the would have to pay for in order to show they were competent. Some had gone all their working lives without having an accident.
• Jan Higgins

  • Location: Dover
  • Registered: 5 Jul 2010
  • Posts: 13,931
  17 March 2015     21:05279910
  #9      
  I would have thought that anyone who has up to date knowledge and training is likely to be more effective and safer on site than someone who did their training years ago, often with age and experience unsafe short cuts can be the norm which is how accidents happen.
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• Guest 1348

  • Registered: 20 Sep 2014
  • Posts: 276
  17 March 2015     22:12279915
  #10      
  A lot do help pay for them as they are necessary and you would loose staff otherwise. At place I worked forklift and first aid was paid for by company including refresher etc. If people did not have the training they would not know where they stood either in regards to their own safety or others around them. As if I am not trained in machinery I don't touch it, where as I have seen people who have been trained end up injuring themselves using short cuts or not being aware as so much of a habit. At end of day it is the risk to people/workers. You would be screaming if someone hurt themselves or injured someone else or others as at the end of the day. Seen people not bother with PPE and hurt themselves. Maybe a good thing the tool hire companies instruct people who do not use machinery before they use it including some indication of required PPE and safety for others too.
  
  
  For awareness training, there is no need to repeat a full training course every year, however some suitable refresher should be given. This can be given as part of other health and safety updates. (HSE)
• Guest 745

  • Registered: 27 Mar 2012
  • Posts: 3,370
  17 March 2015     22:37279916
  #11      
  Its no longer about safety grounded in commonsense, its about money
  
  If you can drive a car without a refresher ,you can drive a forklift, or operate most machines you've been adequately trained to operate.
  
  Has anybody on this forum ever forgotten haw to drive your car or bicycle ?
  
  What job you doing Darren that you need constant re-training in?
• Guest 1348

  • Registered: 20 Sep 2014
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  17 March 2015     23:05279919
  #12      
  To be honest think should be retest for driving, considering how many drive nowadays.
  
  Never said retraining, refresher yes as bad habits form and should be corrected and updated practices passed on.
• Guest 698

  • Registered: 28 May 2010
  • Posts: 8,664
  18 March 2015     09:50279927
  #13      
  How many experienced drivers know all the modern road signs? The signs on Bench St mean 'no motor vehicles' with an exception for delivery vehicles. From the number of cars which drive in for various purposes, you would think they meant 'beware of low flying motorcycles'.
  I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson