Guest 640- Registered: 21 Apr 2007
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17 September 2008
09:386239#1
Just browsing through our latest Dover District Newsletter which only yesterday popped through my letterbox...oooh the excitement as I flick through the pages!
... however have come across one interesting bit about our recent crime figures. We may have had some of this before if I am repeating myself its an age thing!
I hope all you dovorians out there appreciate the following and feel safe in your beds...
2006/7 to 2007/8
Recorded Crime Overall in Dover District has fallen by 13%
Burglaries down 13%
Violence against the person down 14%
Theft of motor vehicles down 11%
Theft from motor vehicles down 35%
Nadeem Aziz Chairman of the Community Safety Unit says...
" These figures are a real credit to the success of the Community Partnership...and brings home the important message that the District is a safe place to live, work and visit."
So statistics show a terrific improvement overall, so as mentioned earlier we can rest a bit easier...and you thought it was a hotbed of crime, not at all!
Guest 640- Registered: 21 Apr 2007
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17 September 2008
09:426240#2
Bythe way..the Community Safet Unit for those not up to speed is the new Unit formed almost a year ago and based at Whitfield...a combined asbo/general policing effort in joint harmony by Kent Police, KCC and DDC, for the greater good. We can probably expect even better figures next year when the performance of the new unit kicks in onto the statistics.
Guest 651- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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17 September 2008
10:296241#3
Been nice knowing you :)
Guest 651- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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17 September 2008
10:306242#4
Even air rifles being shot over our garden - I am still waiting after 3 years for someone to get back to me
Been nice knowing you :)
Guest 670- Registered: 23 Apr 2008
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17 September 2008
10:596243#5
Some time ago I was walking down the High Street minding my own business when this little 'dear' turned round and punched me in the mouth splitting my lip wide open.
The whole incident was caught on camera and the police had no difficulty at all in catching the offender. I subsequently received a letter from the Police saying he had been given a caution.
Visualisin him laughing all the way to the pub I prosecuted him myself.
He pleaded guilty was fined £150.00 with £50.00 costs and another £50.00 for my pain and suffering. He was also ordered to do 80 hours community service.
Sometimes you get better justice if you do things yourself.
17 September 2008
16:096245#6
Crime is down in Dover. And the use of statistics by those people who use statistics is up. I hope that's not the reality, but I sadly suspect it is.
Guest 651- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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17 September 2008
16:166246#7
If people want to learn about statistics, ready the 6 'lessons' on teh BBC website and see why I don't beleive any statistics !!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7605118.stmBeen nice knowing you :)
Guest 675- Registered: 30 Jun 2008
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17 September 2008
16:386251#8
Have they compiled a statistic for the number of crimes unreported or not noted by the police?
Politics, it seems to me, for years, or all too long, has been concerned with right or left instead of right or wrong.
Richard Armour
Guest 645- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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17 September 2008
18:546258#9
It never ceases to amaze me..had Paul started this thread with crime figures up..there would have been pages of examples of criminal events in Dover and how we were heading for an abyss.Nobody would have questioned the compilation of the stastics but we would all have accepted it as true and a sign of the times.But because the figures reflect a downturn in crime we are all poo-poo-ing it as inaccurate ,govt spin,cooking the books etc.
Lets just accept the fact that somethings in this country are improving regardless of the credit crunch brought on by Tory voting greedy gambling bankers who are now looking to the Labour govt to bail them out.
Marek
I think therefore I am (not a Tory supporter)
Guest 677- Registered: 8 Jul 2008
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17 September 2008
19:026259#10
You tell em Marek. This is something positive, lets all view it as that. I for one like hearing that crime is down it makes me feel a little safer and god knows there's precious (no pun intended) little out there to make us feel safe. Plus lets all give thought to the police and the PCSO's who are out there doing the best job they can.
A few years ago I was mugged on the promenade, it was a distressing incident but fortunately all I lost way my handbag and a few irreplacable items in it. The police were fantastic, because I was 6 months pregnant at the time they were out there like a shot almost baying for blood. I was led by the hand to give a statement and ended up giving a fairly accurate decision of my assailant. Unfortunately he wasn't caught but believe me that wasn't for want of trying on behalf of the police. I think they do a fab job and I'm so happy to see more of them in Dover than I ever have before.
It's not the man in my life, its the life in my man!!
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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17 September 2008
19:486264#11
dave 1
full credit to you, the toerag got what he deserved(well nearly).
marek
maybe you have not been a victim of bad behaviour or crime, but when a report is made and you hear nothing
you get to think that nothing is being done.
try to contact the ASBO people at DDC, they do not appear to exist anymore.
don't forget the change to the way that crime figures are collected now!!
18 September 2008
07:546287#12
Absolutely - there are police who do a great job, with charm and tact as well. But there are many incidents of indifference and poor communication as well, and I guess they are the issues that are of concern. If I do a good job it rarely gets noticed or mentioned - after all, it's my job to do a good job!!! But if I fail there are consequences, and that's quite right.
18 September 2008
10:366293#13
Er, 'greedy Tory gamblers'? True, yes, but that mob were in charge a long time ago - pre-1997.
Princess Bliar, Grimdon McBroon and their avaricious, grasping, uber-capitalist, treacherous, Stasi-like, self-serving Tories-in-disguise of a party, who have greedily run roughshod over this once great nation for the past 11 years - and are still clinging to the power they so adore in such an unseemly manner at the moment - are just a tad to blame for the mess we're in too, don't you think?
Keep party politics out of local government and local affairs. Stop playing Westminster at Whitfield like it was a game of shops. Think independent, be independent, think Dover, be Dover!
Guest 664- Registered: 23 Mar 2008
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18 September 2008
11:526294#14
Whatever colour the council, it doesn't seem to make much difference as to the way the district is run.
Maybe an apolitical local government structure is the way forward. Or am I dreaming?
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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18 September 2008
13:156295#15
At District Council level and upwards the size and complexity of budget and the responsibilities makes the elimination of party politics inappropriate. Party politics has a clear benefit in providing for the public clear programmes on which to relate and sets of values and attitudes by which they can judge those up for election. Labels can tell you a lot in this context. I do agree at Town Council level though, about the elimination of Party politics, I see no reason for it because of the lack of statutory responsibilities.
Andrew, I have to disagree that it makes no difference. In my direct experience there is a huge difference in the approach between the Parties. It is the difference between, say, what a group of teachers/social workers would do and what a group of businessmen would do in running a Council's affairs. It would be very different and with extremely different priorities.
These differences are however somewhat muted by the level of interference and dependance upon central government. This results in a quite dramatic reduction in local freedom and the ability to address local issues and priorities.
I believe that the 'localist' agenda that is catching on in the Conservative Party is the way forward, reducing the influence of the centre on Local Government.
One thing that must be done and as yet I have not seen a clear policy in this direction, is to totally change the way Local Government is financed. Councils can only be truly accountable and address local priorities when they are fully responsible for collecting what they spend.
I dont believe a local income tax is the way forward as is proposed in Scotland, that is a big mistake that will haunt the SNP in years to come. Personally I would like to see a mix of a re-aligned Council tax and a local sales tax (replacing VAT) with the sales tax being levied on a County wide basis (not District). Plus, of course, business rates, set locally, collected locally and spent locally.
The complexities of changing Local Government finance is such that I suspect that with the economic crisis it wont be addressed until a second Conservative term of Government.
Been nice knowing you :)