Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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One Anthony Sansum has a letter in today's Dover Express which makes interesting reading.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Jan Higgins
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Not much information there for those of us who do not bother with the paper.
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Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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Keith's brother praising Charlie and knocking Gwyn. Charlie resolved a problem that Gwyn let drift for years.
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Jan Higgins
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Thanks Peter, well done to Charlie.

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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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i remember when the story first broke on the front page of the express a few years back.
i don't know mr samsun but suspected that there was more than this issue involved and there might have been differences over other things in the past.
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But I thought the labour party was united in all things and had no differences?
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Guest 660- Registered: 14 Mar 2008
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He hasnt been a member of the Labour Party for years I believe another Ken I think.
If you knew what I know,we would both be in trouble!
Guest 660- Registered: 14 Mar 2008
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Peter the Labour Party is made up of many different factions eg Keith joined I heard because of Badgers,I joined to fight injustice we have disagreements but can normally find a way of finding support after discussion.
If you knew what I know,we would both be in trouble!
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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multi coloured john?
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If you knew what I know,we would both be in trouble!
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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John I only posted #6 to get some of you reds off your sofas. Seems to have worked.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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reds on the sofas?
i thought they were lurking under our beds, besides the reds and blues will always say that they are a broad church.
gives a bit of credibility when they are stabbing each other in the back.
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Oooh, Howard you do like to twist the knife

Keith Sansum1
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now let's reply,
Although i have not spoken to anthony on this case, nor do i have any intention of doing so, i do recall gwyn replying at the time that he had taken up the case and although these claims were refuted gwyn was(with anthonys permission) going to publish the letters to/from them both the labour office
this was never taken up by anthony, as far as im aware.
No doubt charlie did his bit, but by the time he got involved it sounds like the case was at an end anyway, but all credit to him.
im sure that most people find it crazy to discuss such issues with a local paper not with the best reputation in Dover, but that was his choice.
certainly i would hae thought getting to this position should have been a private matter, and although it's not for me to judge anyone there is some who would say having to go through the csa maybe not all the fault lies with them.
Now anthony probably hasn't been a member of the labour party for 10 years or more, and this is not the only case where by he has made it clear of his lack of support for gwyn and the labour party.
that is of course his choice.
with regard to gwyn he was a nice enough chap but to middle of the road for me and although a good constituency mp, not my cup of tea.
with regard to the labour party itself, it is a broad church, and you can see from some of its ex members how different the -views are that it is a broad church.
to name such a few;
reg hansell middle of the road
bob frost(yep he was also in the labour party!!!) but more to the right
which he showed when he joined the tories)
so peter unlike your party, im happy to openly discuss my feelings on issues as the arise with any of the parties
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Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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Actually I merely wanted to commend Anthony for his honesty and good grace in giving Charlie the credit. A pleasure to see such behaviour in a (former?) political activist.
As you all know I like to see the politicos working together for the good of Dover, and not shouting at one another. We should be looking for things on which we agree, not for things to argue about. A good example is the People's Port Trust, where Charlie and Gordon Cowan are both board members seeking a common goal.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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........bit uneasy about this thread.........sometimes some posters get personal with their comments of other posters.......
........its a slippery slope..........we choose our friends not our relations....to raise a relative of another poster...could be
another slippery slope........
Keith Sansum1
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Thank you reg, but i do realise this was a below the belt move by peter
but im not afraid to give my open view on whatever or whoever as i have done above.
i have answered and hope now this thread can be put to bed
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Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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I am so happy that everybody is so happy.

Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.