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  Marek
  Your right about frank field but sadly he was tasked by blair before and as soon as he came up with radical ideas blair said no.
  so i dont hold out much hope there.
  But the benefits system needs sorting out and quick.
  
  Roger
  its not this Government, but ALL govts have failed on this one (yes even your tory friends)
  no govt has ever been brave enough to take this issue on
  and i suspect Tory/labour or lib dem never will.
  
  
  Mr Ward made a bad error, and hopefully has learnt from it, Hopefully it is not a view he shares(sterilisation)but he certainly hasn't said he doesn't support it as yet.
  what he said was, lets explore other avenues first, but didn't rule it out if all these avenues failed.
  
  jacqui
  nice to see you on line my computers at doctors for about a week iv sneaked into boys bedroom using his at mo

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