Guest 688- Registered: 16 Jul 2009
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Suddenly it looks like we have a three party political fight on our hands.Who believes that the Liberals will keep up this initial political momentum and would this be such a fundemental realignment of the British Political system .
Brian Dixon
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cant see why not,a 3 to 1 chance of getting into number 10.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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don't see them winning myself, but can certainly see them as part of a coalition government.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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The electoral arithmatic is against them They could, over time, replace Labour as the main opposition Party but they have a hell of a long way to go to be a potential governing party. Right now they are not fit for it, you just have to see their policies to see that.
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I would imagine that come polling day the opinion poles of this last week will be way off the mark of the actual result, I will be amazed if the Liberals are not the third party by some distance.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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barry
do you not see the yellows getting enough seats to hold the balance of power?
david cameron and the rest of the leadership think differently, they binned an election broadcast rubbishing gordon brown and are doing, or have done, a new one rubbishing nick clegg.
My view is that Labour will be slaughtered, along with the ScotNats and UKIP. Sinn Fein will dominate NI. PC will see no change in Wales.
The interesting battle will be between the Tories and LibDems. I reckon the Tory "Vote For Change" campaign will actually work for the LibDems, as folks want change but now have, at long last, a credible alternative to the old reds and blues. They may just vote for the LibDems.
It's going to be an interesting election for once and maybe, just maybe, enough folks will be galvanised into voting instead of watching Corrie-endersdale.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Howard the question was about winning and that means a majority and thats what the question was. A hung Parliament with the Libdems holding the balance of power would be a win for Brown and Labour, thats the best result they can hope for. A Lib/Lab pack will be resurected until it once again collapses.
The only way to be sure of getting rid of Brown is to vote Conservative.
Guest 660- Registered: 14 Mar 2008
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I was with a leading Liberal tonight and he told me that many Liberals are going to vote Labour locally to stop Charlie getting in,funny that because 2 leading Tories told me that they can't stand Charlie.I think that is unfair I know there is a big split in the Tory group as there is in the Labour Group on the Town Council.but I have always found Charlie good to talk too and a nice guy,but I wouldn't vote for him either,but I am biased.
So I guess Barry the opposite to your thinking is if you don't want the Tories the only way is to vote Labour
If you knew what I know,we would both be in trouble!
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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barry
my understanding of the question put by john heron was whether there would be a sea change in our politics caused by the yellows, not about actually winning.
there has been a lot of tactical voting in the past by people trying to keep the blues or reds from winning a seat.
what would be the outcome if those people actually decided to go by their main preference and vote yellow?
john
i have not heard people say that they dislike chas, he comes across as an amiable type, but he clearly stands to the left of the party faithful, very much in the mould of david cameron.
we can safely say that this has not made him universally popular in the blue ranks.
"what would be the outcome if those people actually decided to go by their main preference and vote yellow?"
Howard, that is a seriously good question.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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intreeging that.if 75%of dover votes yellow so becoming a lib/dem seat,multiply that across the country you would have a new goverment,with lam/con in second and third place.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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that is very kind of you sid, have you been drinking?
with proportional representation they could actually form a government, but as things stand the blues and reds are never going to be silly enough to allow that to happen.
of course the recent polls are not how people will actually vote, but i sincerely believe that a lot of people will follow the blues slogan and vote for change, not as they are exhorted to though.
the expenses scandal still plays a part in our psyche, the yellows having so few mp's suffered the least.
That's true, and in fairness to Gwynn, he was sqeuaky clean with his expenses. I still think he hasn't done enough in his time as our MP, but I respect his honesty when compared to the other MP's.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Gwyn - squeeky clean, sorry Sid but that was not true.
JHG - you can hope but people I find are motivated most to get brown and Labour out.
As for Charlie, I have only ever heard good about him from within Conservative ranks and can see not a sign of a split.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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so you say barry,gwyn came out preatty well considering.,
