2 November 2010
12:1878054Did anyone else watch the docu last night on channel four at nine pm? it gives a real insight and i must say im disgusted by how lame the c,p,s is , It showed a criminal plainly pretending to have a fit to he could be taken to the hospital using an ambulance and two policemen just so he could have a cigarette! the custody woman admitted the regular criminals are abusing the system to get their own ways. Anyone else got any views on this?????
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
2 November 2010
13:4578073the career criminal will know every trick in the book to gain advantage.
they sit around all day doing nothing in prison, stands to reason that they will be sharing handy hints with each other.
2 November 2010
15:2078092It was the mention of the 'chatham pocket' containing two mobile phones and two chargers that made my eyes water!
Terry Nunn
- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 4,316
2 November 2010
15:5878095There was a documentary a month or so ago about prisons. It also showed how mobile phones are smuggled in. They had a special chair with a built in metal detector to discover such things. I can imagine a phone (at a push if you'll pardon the pun), but two chargers!!!
Terry
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Ross Miller
- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 17 Sep 2008
- Posts: 3,707
2 November 2010
16:3378103There was a fantastic blog post by a serving copper under the name of Night Jack that dealt with exactly how criminals behave when arrested etc. and advising us the law abiding majority on the "tricks of the trade" - sadly he was outed by The Times and his blog was pulled and he was disciplined.
Here are some links to articles about his blog
http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2009/may/17/night-jack-orwell-prize
http://mondaybooks.blogspot.com/2009/06/nightjack-and-times.html
And here is a link to the blog archive that someone has manged to collate - well worth a read
http://nightjackarchive.blogspot.com/"Dream as if you'll live forever. Live as if you'll die today." - James Dean
"Being deeply loved by someone gives you strength,
While loving someone deeply gives you courage" - Laozi
Ross Miller- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 17 Sep 2008
- Posts: 3,707
2 November 2010
17:4178113There was a fantastic blog post by a serving copper under the name of Night Jack that dealt with exactly how criminals behave when arrested etc. and advising us the law abiding majority on the "tricks of the trade" - sadly he was outed by The Times and his blog was pulled and he was disciplined.
Here are some links to articles about his blog
http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2009/may/17/night-jack-orwell-prize
http://mondaybooks.blogspot.com/2009/06/nightjack-and-times.html
And here is a link to the blog archive that someone has manged to collate - well worth a read
http://nightjackarchive.blogspot.com/"Dream as if you'll live forever. Live as if you'll die today." - James Dean
"Being deeply loved by someone gives you strength,
While loving someone deeply gives you courage" - Laozi
2 November 2010
18:0978119It was a shocking documentry to watch more next week.
3 November 2010
19:4778338As a copper's mum I think they are vastly under-rated. There is too much time wasted on paperwork.
Guest 700- Registered: 11 Jun 2010
- Posts: 2,868
3 November 2010
22:2678365A few items about the earliest police in Dover:
from DOVER WATCH COMMITTEE records (start January 1836) give an idea of their early working procedure
(these records are on film at Dover Ref Library, original records at Kent Co.Archives)
No person to be over 40 years old when appointed.
No one to carry on a trade but devote all time to service of the Police.
To supply certificates of age, place of abode, and bodily health.
They start their work in Dover on Wed. 20 January 1836.
Clothes to be furnished to each Constable. Metropolitan Police will give details of complete set of clothes which they use.
Pay: 17 shillings weekly for a Constable in Jan 1836.
Watch Committee: Edward P. Thompson (Mayor); Edward Boxer; Wm Cocke; E. Rutley; W.R.Dickinson; F. Rutley; Edward Poole.
Hat to be similar to London (tenders sent out to Dover hatters to supply 14).
Tender to C. & A. Cockett for uniforms, 14 of each item required in 14 days. Three of blue dress coats to have a silver badge. Sergeants coats can be of superior quality "on paying the difference".
In January 1836 six Supernumaries appointed.
Pay: 1 Inspector 1-guinea; 3 sergeants at 19s; 12 men at 17s clothing same as Metropolitan police.
Station house near the Market Place, Dover. June 1836: appropriating premises - a portion of extensive premises recently converted into the new Gaol and Sessions house. Each man allowed 2 pairs boots per annum. Policemen paid 2/6d for extra services at Sessions in February. No man can leave the town without stating nature of his business to the inspector or sergeant. Wm ATTER to supply boots.
August 1836: Supernumary list - people put at top of list for good attendance. Plan for police station. More
vacancies for supernumaries. Some were then appointed "permanent policemen".
Dec. 1836. Henry LUCAS to make new sets of clothes. Hats to be made by Messrs Spurway & Smith.
Some policemen were dismissed (drunk) and some put on reduced pay for 8 weeks.
Pay for 14 weeks given for one injured while on duty.
March 1837: intoxicated policemen to be immediately dismissed. Police not allowed to smoke on duty.
June: The word "patrol" to be called by police officers, every 20 yards of their beat.
June 1837: Yearly allowance paid to PCs for Boots, Shoes, Gloves.
June 1839: Sergt. BACK given 5/- for extraordinary diligence. The station house now in Queen Street.
1840, Jan: The Inspector (Henry Crosoer) drunk, dismissed, and not to be replaced.
Feb 1840, hours: 5 men on 6am to 2pm; 5 men on 2pm to 10pm and 10 men on 10pm to 6am.
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Lincolnshire Born and Bred
4 November 2010
09:2378410Ah yes Diana say hello to Pete for me