Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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#1
"Conservative MPs from Kent, East Anglia and Herefordshire have strongly backed a National Farmers' Union campaign for the scheme to be extended to migrant workers from Ukraine and Russia to maintain the supply of fruit and vegetables to British supermarkets."
(see link below)
With 22% youth unemployment in the UK, we pay these fools to be our MPs!
Who voted them in?
"British growers currently recruited about half of their pickers from Poland and other eastern European countries who joined the EU in 2004, and about a third from Romania and Bulgaria." (link below)
Yes, we know that British farmers have excluded British people from working, that's not new. Yet these same farmers receive subsidies paid by the British taxpayer.
Here's the LIE:
"The experience of decades is that British workers don't want to do this work. They are temporary jobs" (see link)
What utter rubbish!
When signing on in 2010, I searched EVERYWHERE online, and at the joke centre, for work on farms, for example as seasonal crop harvester. The truth is, as a British person, I was denied this work.
This sort of work is simply NOT offered to British people, the employers recruit directly through agencies and ONLY foreign workers!
The mafia that runs the farming-scene in South East England categorically does not ALLOW Brits to go anywhere near a farm to work as seasonal worker.
Here the link:
http://www.standartnews.com/english/read/london_cut_seasonal_workers_from_bulgaria_and_romania-623.htmlGuest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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#2
Instead of wasting his time in Brussels and running after European elections, and making pub-speeches, Nigel Farage should 'of opened his eyes in England (he is an Englander) and spoken out against the mafia farming-scene here, and its despicable discrimination against local people.
Of-course we all knew it, and we all knew that it is racist discrimination against British people, rather like saying that Jews don't want to work, have hooked noses and are "good for nothing".
We all know where that has led to over the centuries.
And here we have hand-wringing Tory MPs bleating for more migrant workers to come to Britain while we have widespread youth unemployment and food banks springing up everywhere, and children going to school without even having had breakfast.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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#3
Of-course we could say that it's time the English started again farming our own land and picking our own fruit of the field if we want to get out of the sub-culture of food banks and hungry children sitting shivering in the classroom, but it's first necessary to introduce a law banning subsidy-receiving farmers from applying racist discrimination against Brits by employing only cheap-labour foreign migrants.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#4
Must say I agree most of what is said in the aboth posts, there are a many young English persons tha would love to work on a farm but they can not get that kind of job because the farmer does go for the ovcersea worker because of cost,but farming is not the only ones at it building sites and shops do the same but farming and building sites are the main ones and I agree it should be stoped and the same hourly rate for a job should be the same for all that way our English young are on the same starting point as the rest in fact we must for the good of the UKin years to come lkk after are own first. When I sald this at a public meeting I was talking at some years ago,a person shouted out "Thats right Matcham think of NO1 first" I said back to him "Thats right you have to look after NO1 first so they can look after NO2 if that does not happen we all are NO2 and that is where we are heading for now then there will be no number NO1s to look after NO2s, just think about that and you know where I am coming from.
Brian Dixon
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#5
alex/vic,if they the farmers employ british workers to pick fruit and vegtables,the farmers would make a loss and the price of fruit and veg would rocket,due to having to inport food.
the farmers would plough fields and put more profitable food stuffs in rather than non profitable stuff.
Keith Sansum1
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#6
Must be an election coming lol
we probably need to solve both issues
1; would british workers realy go for these lower paid jobs? if the wages were increased then the knock on affect as brian says is an increase in the price of the product
2; in the past British havn't taken up such jobs, when there were many vacancies these were not taken up
these jobs have to be filled
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Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#7
As I said if the same hourly rate was paid for all that done it then There are 1000s of our workers on the mim/hourly rate as it is.The doll office I am told can make you take a job or stop your doll money,so English workers would take the work .
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#8
alex is spot on i know of a few people that used to do seasonal farm jobs and cannot apply for vacancies anymore.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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#9
Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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#10
Little need for a Conservative candidate in Taunton Deane at the next election...
http://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/11869/jeremy_browne/taunton_deaneIgnorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#11
jeremy browne sums up perfectly how out of touch he and his party are with public opinion.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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#12
works both ways howard.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#13
in what way brian, please illuminate me?
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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Guest 671- Registered: 4 May 2008
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#15
This is not about race, it is about who can or cannot live on the wages, being paid by these farmers.
Someone with responsibilities for rent, utility bills food bills etc. for themselves and their families, cannot survive on these lower wages.
Those with less responsibilities are able to survive and to take up this work.
Over many years our home grown farm workers have earned themselves a decent living wage by working long very unsociable hours, through years of dedication and loyalty and how is that loyalty being repaid?
By stripping them of their rights, reduction of their wages and by sacking them, putting them on the scrap heap.
False economy.
Has anyone seen any reduction in the price of fruit, due to farmers paying less in wages or due to anything come to that?
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Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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#16
I am of to buy my French golden appals .
Just don't support British farmers,
Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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#17
Of course it is 'true', but it is more of a truism than a factual account, that as 'we' can slope off and reside in mainland Europe and those from the mainland can come here.
Much as a Black Cab, is so called because it is a cab and it is black, and that Cheese tastes 'cheesy', because it is cheese.
All obvious, but a mite thin on the detail.
But, as usual, the very Devil is in the detail.
How 'right' things seem is for each to decide for themselves. 'We' are free to extract wealth from our own economy and take it off and distribute it in the economy of another EU State;
doing-up a run down Château, farmhouse-come-L' Auberge, time-share holiday home or retirement villa etc.
Yet, each of things is an example of an investment of 'new money', delivering wealth-creating opportunities and employment.
This is markedly different from 'economic migrant workers' coming here (or anywhere else in the EU) to abstract wealth, and to have a thoroughly negative effect upon 'wealth creation and employment' for the natives of the host State.
However, there is none so smug as those whose smug runs deep.
It is also possible for any citizen of the EU to migrate and to stand for election to the Legislature of their respective host State.
What depth of 'smug' comes into play then?
What might be made of 'Constituency connection' in arguing against such a PPC?
It's a bit like shouting "FIRE!" in a battlefield trench, as long as you don't care whether your audience is burned to a crisp while they mistakenly shoot across no-man's land, it does not matter, you'll have your sincerity to feel smug about.
Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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#18
ukip. keep constantly pointing out, before the cheap EU worker invasion
Did the crop lay rotting in the ground ??
NO British workers did the work ,farmers still got rich
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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#19
oh dear keith b
no support for those uk farm people then
interesting
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#20
to put it simply the vast majority of uk people that move to mainland europe are retired, buy a house and spend their money locally.
they do no take local jobs or force pay rates down and don't have children to fill schools, the reverse is not happening.