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  Howard you have almost hit the nail on the head. A political discussion is where one or more people debate issues and this is where Barry has the advantage. He not only reads and agrees with what Tory central office puts out, he understands it. Sid and Keith merely repeat Labour Party dogma as they have both got used to having there thinking done for them and have no need to understand what they read or have preached to them, its called following the party line, this leaves no leeway for the individual amongst them to offer or suggest alternative policies of which both Sid and Keith in a free political party would excel.

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