Guest 652- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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20 February 2009
13:5715739#1
What is going on in Clarendon Place, road sealed off Belgrave Rd end, 4 fire engines 2 o 3 ambulances and police cars, what is this town coming to
Sheila
20 February 2009
15:0615741#2
Sounds like the Bronx or Brixton today.
20 February 2009
17:0615758#3
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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20 February 2009
18:2115767#4
Thanks Andrew
They got that on their site pretty quickly - well done to them.
Roger
Guest 682- Registered: 19 Jan 2009
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20 February 2009
19:3415782#5
Pleasing to see that the emergency services managed to get to the incident past the parked cars.
You still haven't sent me the results of that survey Sheila supporting your request to look at a one-way system for vehicles round the Clarendon areas.
Guest 652- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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20 February 2009
20:4215792#6
Nigel
Why they have not been sent is that they are well out of date, new people have moved into area so that the survey now is invalid
Sheila
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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20 February 2009
21:4015797#7
a one way system is desperately required in the area.
i would like to hear the opinions of companies like stagecoach, argos, home direct and all the supermarket delivery vans that now
are having severe problems with carrying out their activities.
i have not even bothered to mention the fire and ambulance service.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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21 February 2009
08:2315808#8
Many years ago - around 4 or 5 anyway, a survey was carried out in those Clarendon Streets, but the response was so low (around 6% or less) it was felt that we couldn't proceed with it - and this was cross-party.
If people are now being more responsive, maybe another one, but you can't keep doing surveys until you get the "right" answer - that's what the EU do with the Constitution/Treaty.
Roger
Guest 682- Registered: 19 Jan 2009
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21 February 2009
08:5815811#9
Thanks Sheila so nothing is moving and from Roger's posting it is Status Quo
Howard - The situation with the emergency services, as you indicate, is unthinkable in an emergency. Stagecoach have said for a number of years that when the Mercedes 709 vehicles need replacing, and that day is rapidly approaching, the new easy access buses required by law very soon now that are slightly wider for wheelchair accessability, will not be able to use the current route - from memory, this is one reason why the never submitted survey was carried out about 4 or 5 years ago as Roger quite accurately recalls.
The survey should have been submitted straight away to both DDC, who housed the Highways Unit at that time, and KCC, as the public transport providers, but for reasons best known to those who carried out the survey this never happened, thus we are still at Status Quo.
That percentage is interesting Roger, Sheila gave me the impression that it was higher when we discussed it in te street about a year or so ago and she said she would forward it to me.
I don't yet have information as to whether the Kent Fire & Rescue Service had difficulty in getting to this incident but if they did, to a degree it may have been fortunate that they were not responding to a fire or there could have been some awful fatal consequences.
I once saw a house in a similarly narrow road in Maidstone near to where two friends lived. The property had been severely damaged by fire and there was a fixed double glazed window that the F&R Service, following difficulties getting to the incident due to parked vehilces, had been unable to smash through so the young girl whose bedroom window it was couldn't be rescued. It was spine-chilling looking at that window.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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21 February 2009
13:3515823#10
nigel
the situation is becoming more urgent by the month.
is a petition needed, cannot council officers that make recommendations in these matters, come and see for themselves and advise a decision?
at present if cars park totally in the road, there would be no room whatsoever for another car to get through, if they park half on the pavement, then a baby buggy or motorised buggy has to go in the road to make progress.
when the present buses used on the route finally breathe their last(that will not be long either) then many residents will be effectively housebound.
there are stacks of garages available, most houses have them, although some with longer cars would have problems with maneouvering through the alleys.
there are also garages for rent available between the folkestone road and clarendon street.
none of us want to see another version of the incident described in your last paragraph.