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  bern,i am not denying the facts,i have posted two yes two other things that can and have been known to be killers.
  
  1,booze,as in vodka,whisky and such like.facts have proved this.
  2,cars,dangerous in inaexperinsed hands of 17 to 25 years age group.stats have allso proved this.
  
  
  so from what i can understand from what you are saying is that kills more than the other two,which is fair comment.
  howard and myself allong with a few others from the the forum have seen the results from underage drinking etc.
  so if you want to see fairness for keeping youngsters happy and healthy booze should kept locked up like tobbaco prducts.
  teenagers [17+] should be able to pass there tests under controlled enviroment,then supervized for there first year to 18 months on the road.either that or put up there insurence to 5 grand a year.

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