Guest 690- Registered: 10 Oct 2009
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8 September 2010
12:0569325 Cherry tree has been a general name in Dover relating to the whole area of Cherry tree avenue over the year`s. But what a pleasant name when you really think about it. A few other pleasant sounding names in Dover so often taken for granted. Back to this one though, and the picture above shows the 94 service bus which has just come down from Pilgrim`s way on the Buckland estate and is at the Cherry tree avenue stop. The building`s on the extreme left are easily recognisable today. Where did Cherry tree get it`s name from, and how long has it been known as that? The bus shown above by the way, was withdrawn from service in 1956.
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Terry Nunn
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8 September 2010
12:1969326Don't know anout the origin Colin. However the flint cottages in the background were illegally demolished by Dover Borough Council. Terry Sutton stepped in to stop them but was too late. All that remains are a few flint panels in the new wall.
As to the bus, those Guy Arabs were the ugliest ever. The contemporary Leyland PD's were far better.
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Guest 690- Registered: 10 Oct 2009
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8 September 2010
12:3469327I liked the PD`s too Terry, but I liked the Guy Arab 111`s from 1951, maybe because I grew up with them in the early 60s. The picture above of course, I should mention to other`s is a wartime utility design, giving it a very austere appearence.
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Terry Nunn- Location: London Road, Dover
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8 September 2010
12:3669328Presumably there may have been Cherry Trees lining the avenue, but then I suppose that the road was called something else before and the name changed.
Terry
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Terry Nunn- Location: London Road, Dover
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8 September 2010
12:4169330Have just checked Derek Leach's book "Streets of Dover". He says that the name possibly comes from the original Cherry Tree Inn (not the one that's now Kingfisher) that was the only building in the road.
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Guest 700- Registered: 11 Jun 2010
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8 September 2010
16:2569344Yes, it was very sad that the ancient flint cottages, like so many things of historical value, were demolished.
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from Wingham Division Alehouse Licences 2 Sept 1740:
Thomas BAKER 8 shillings paid - "Cherry Tree" - Buckland Parsh - Ale Licence
(ref KAO-QRLV 3/1 Kent Co.Archives)
No doubt the name goes back much further than this and perhaps there was a large Cherry tree on the site, or cherry orchard.
I doubt whether cherry trees would line the road in those days, the roads would be cart tracks at that time.
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Here is another ref to the pub:
Cock-Fighting
On Tuesday and Wednesday next 17th and 18th inst will be fought at Mr DODD's, the Cherry Tree near Dover
A Main of Cocks between the Gentlemen of Dover and the Gentlemen of Folkestone
For Two Guineas and a half a Battle and Ten Pounds the Odd Battle.
To shew 11 cocks each day. Good ordinary each day at one o'clock.
(Kentish Gazette 10-13 Jan 1786 back page col.1)
[NB an 'Ordinary' means the 'meal of the day' at the inn)
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8 September 2010
20:2769371Good to see the old gents getting their cocks out in Cherry Tree Avenue. Couldn't happen today of course.
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8 September 2010
20:2969374I think both example`s are illegal today Sid.
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9 September 2010
00:1969433The Photo at the top is in London Road, not Cherry tree Avenue, the bus stop is still there, where you see the fence in the picture is now Watling tyres
9 September 2010
00:2169434Well spotted Sheila; that's the mill in the background if I'm not mistaken, just behind what is now a DHSS building.
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9 September 2010
09:4769463You`re right above Sheila, and I know it`s London road, but the bus stop over the years has always been referred to as Cherry tree. The next bus stop down was Beaconsfield, but it was still London road. That`s what I was referring to originally, that the area around Cherry tree has always been known loosely as Cherry tree. Sid, I did point out above those building`s extreme left are still easily recognisable. Nice to know some point`s of reference are still around.
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