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    I really can't be bothered to trawl this voluminous thread for the exact quote but I believe you said something along the lines of people arguing anything not fully supportive of Charlie Elphike's treatment had their own stuff to deal with. The shaming tone annoyed me, and sounded like you were trying to win the argument by embarrassing people into silence.

    "Weird" is obviously a thing for you... maybe a hang-up? I have been called "an original thinker" by another forumite and told to expect only disappointment on this forum. I get what they mean.

    There was also supposed to be a touch of wry humour in my comments - seems that went over your head.

    As for the judge claiming men are sexual predators by nature, I am not claiming the judge said that.

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