Guest 715- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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#1
Figures released today show that for the first time The Tunnel is carrying more passengers than the Ferries, Ferries losing their edge?
Audere est facere.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#2
that surprises me with the problems eurostar have every now and again, the ferries are a more reliable option albeit slower.
Brian Dixon
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#3
its all those people who some on the train thats doing the problems.at least on the ferry you can have a nice fried breakfast and a smoke and a pint of the finest on the aft deck.ps,p&o wont let you have a fag on the aft deck.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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#4
That surprises me as the latest figures (2012) from the Port of Dover, put the percentages at:
49.8% Cars
58.8% Coaches
57.1% Road Haulage vehicles
Roger
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#5
sorry roger i don't understand those figures.
Guest 703- Registered: 30 Jul 2010
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#6
The report I half heard on local TV this morning had Eurotunnel saying they thought their increase had come from air passengers rather than ferry passengers.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#7
As I said the port of Dover have had its hayday,it is down hill now unless fuel costs go down.
Guest 1694- Registered: 24 Feb 2016
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#8
Howard, The percentages given are market share between Tunnel and the Port of Dover. Passengers come in cars and Eurotunnel now has more than half of them.
Guest 673- Registered: 16 Jun 2008
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#9
Eurotunnel has long surpassed the ferries in the number of passengers transported. There were nearly twenty million last year, half of which travelled on Eurostar trains.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#10
thanks for the clarification neil.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#11
So going your way Mr Wiggins we would see the port go bust.
Guest 1694- Registered: 24 Feb 2016
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#12
Nope Vic. Just because passenger vehicle market share is at less than 50% does not mean that at all.
Ed, perfectly correct that passenger numbers through Eurotunnel have been more than 50% of the market for some time. I think that the most recent news story on this front is due to the fact that for the first time Eurotunnel handled more than 50% of passenger car traffic.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#13
i am quite surprised that eurotunnel get such a high proportion of the freight business, on the ferries the drivers can relax, have a decent meal, shower and relax before the long journey ahead.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#14
And now more lorrys are going that way.
Guest 1694- Registered: 24 Feb 2016
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#15
Eurotunnel is 'on the way' provides them with fairly decent facilities whilst they wait for their shuttle and has had the marketing teams out visiting with the cargo owners and freight companies on both sides of the Channel. It is a little more complex than that, but that is close to the heart of the reason.
Guest 641- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#16
Eurostar have picked the majority of passenger traffic due to the fact that it takes you into the heart of France, (Gai) Paris, Simples
Guest 1694- Registered: 24 Feb 2016
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#17
Some of my criticisms of DHB have been their poor corporate level relationships with the Ferry Operators, distinct lack of direct marketing of the port to the freight community as a whole (which would benefit all the Ferry Operators), deteriorating facilities for drivers on dock and lack of provision of an off dock buffer zone with driver facilities in case of terminal traffic congestion.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#18
a piece on meridian earlier where they were talking to people who were planning to use the ferries today, the general consensus was that they found it more relaxing overall.
mr laming was typically bullish putting last years figures down to more people using eurostar to get to london for the olympics.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#19
We like going by ship better but if the weather is not good and my wife gets very sea sick it would be the tunnel.
