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  had to smile at the first line there jan, those were the exact words one of our members used about dave prior to the last election.
  
  gettin back to what you and peter are saying, the truth is that most people vote for the same party each time, no point in politicians talking to them.
  
  the minority that sway elections are those that watch and listen to political and current affairs programmes, read the broadsheets and make a judgement based on that.

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