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    Whilst we are agreeing Peter, lets take this a little further, I find it embarrassing when it comes to light, and outside people say, but Dover has two different carnivals 2 Miss Dovers etc etc
    which is the official body? I don't have the answers and I know the 2 bodies have attempted to get together, but maybe ego's(from both sides) didn't allow it to happen.

    But it makes a mockery of the present set up

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