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    I do agree Bern , and also with Gary C , the issue is how many of us would be be willing to pay the real cost of care , not the driven down enforced costs that providers are forced tp accept but the real humanitarian based ,best care that people deserve , when the state will only fund a 20 min call to get someone up washed dressed and fed , with no travel time allowed between the visits and council tax payers still say they are paying too much ,
    How many of us would be willing to fund the real time needed (about one hour ) for a skilled and motivated person to be paid what they are really worth ( way above minimum wage ) and fund proper training and supervision ( at least 10 days a year ) it soon adds up .

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