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  In reality howard, the lib dems are a party finished as soon as an election is called and even cleggy realises that.
  there only hope now is to salvage a few seats back, and rebuild for the following general election.
  
  
  barryw's dave also knows hes neverl likely to win outright as apathy rules, and his latest moves to please those on thre right of his party has done a great deal not only to damage the co olition but more so the UK standing across the world

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