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    Alexander, what HMG is suggesting is to prevent Gadaffi from committing atrocaties on his civilian population. A 'no-fly zone' and possible limited use of ground forces plus possibly arming the rebels is quite reasonable and would not have the effect you suggest. We are not talking an Iraqi style intervention here.

    Vic - the GR9 Harrier is a ground attack aircraft and lacks the air to air radar needed for policing a no-fly zone. The Sea Harrier version was equipped for the air to air role and that was done away with by Labour long before the latest cuts. Besides, I am not arguing with you, I agree and have said many times that defence should not be cut, the only thing that should not be.

    Worth adding - I have just seen a report. No 10 have confirmed that this is a contingency plan and a last resort option. It is hoped that Gadafffi will have more sense than to 'fight to the end' and perhaps kill innocent civilians.

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