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    getting back to the thread, today in the torygraph they have reported three more ministers (of course all lib dem) complaining about the reductions in child benefit and that it will put some back into poverty.

    the coolition cant survive with all these rumblings, and its no good nick and dave trying to paper over the cracks.

    cameron was right to remove cable on decisions on murdock but cable remains in place, and will continue to gaff.

    i think cleggy is in a no win situation but he should remove cable and rebuild, but the longer he lets this go on the more he will be pulled down.


    The lib dems we can see are in real melt down, many of there MP's suddenly waking up to the fact that there seats are to be lost.
    to little to late????????

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