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  Surely the same can soon be said of those in work, but who pay no income tax because they earn less that the £10-£12K allowance threshold you propose Barry, it's not their money then that pays the benefits?
  Why is it that some in employment take the knocks and others, paid through some imagined market-force mechanism, are above all of this?
  The ceiling on benefit payments is often spoken of as there to reduce the amount of money paid to the claimant, when really the bulk of this money goes straight to the landlord, and much of the rest to EDF etc.
  
  Your arguments are no more than;he who has gets more, he who has not gets less. It's like the last two hundred years never took place.

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