howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
#1
Guest 640- Registered: 21 Apr 2007
- Posts: 7,819
#2
Well the Libdems had a brief flirtation with the dizzy heights back there a couple of years ago during the election campaign. Nick Clegg was on an alltime high...the Libdems had never seen anything like it before...it was a drug filled high..and what drug was it I hear you ask....popularity thats what! And it went to their heads.
From obscurity and dinner table chatter to power at a single leap they went, and basically all because of CleggMania which had a whiff of the Tony Blair rise about it. But as we all know now, the bottom fell out of that one pretty fast.
Now I quote a bit from the article..
"The latest poll of polls for The Independent suggests that Nick Clegg could see his number of MPs reduced from 57 to 19 unless the party improves its ratings. The figure slumps to just 11 MPs when the proposed new parliamentary map is taken into account."
Oh dear! where were you when the Libdem balloon went up?
Every wednesday during Prime Ministers Questions (PMQ) we see a very sad faced Nick Clegg looking longingly into the distance...longing for the faraway hills of youth, the faraway hills of happier days when all he had to do was provide noisy opposition in The House, and dinner party chatter for the chattering classes, while getting well paid for it all too. Nobody expected too much from the Libdems and life was good then. Now in power...and being as popular as Rasputin on a black Russian night...well....fings aint what they used to be.
Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
- Posts: 23,948
#3
ALL POSTS ARE MY OWN PERSONAL VIEWS
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
#4
true keith but you also insisted that the cobbled together government would only last 18 months.
must be 19 now and going strong.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
- Posts: 8,115
#5
I've seen the LibDem polls swing between 8 and 16% over the past weeks.
It all depends what he says when opening his mouth. When starting off on the EU, it has a negative response, when it's something to do with national policy, it's often interesting to listen to.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
- Posts: 23,948
#6
I THINK howard that the divisions are opening up all ove the co olition
and within the lib dems we are seeing break away groups
the tories are also suffering with over 100 rebels all waiting to see blood
cleggy's face at prime ministers question time says it all
ALEXANDER
yes one of cleggy's problems is the E.U., but people also havn't forgotten all his other sell outs
ALL POSTS ARE MY OWN PERSONAL VIEWS
Guest 640- Registered: 21 Apr 2007
- Posts: 7,819
#7
lol!
re post 3...ah indeed Keefy we've said all that before. There is nothing much new to be said about poor oul Cleggy as he seems to achieve nothing much since the wheels came off his wagon. With no wheels your wagon wont go nowhere.
The most striking thing about him these days is that sadly forlorn look he presents to the world every wednesday at PMQ.
I think one of the guys said on here before...his days in politics may well be numbered and he is counting down the hours til he can get away.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
- Posts: 23,948
#8
It's looking like he wants to go(cleggy)
maybe his wife will pressure him to go early
he clearly isn't in it to win it any more
ALL POSTS ARE MY OWN PERSONAL VIEWS
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
#9
he will looking for a job in the european commission where nobody will know he is up to.
normally politicians are much older than him when they take that course.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
- Posts: 8,115
#10
If the prognosis here and on other threads on the LibDems are fact-finding, it would appear the next government will be an all-out Tory one, unless Labour got in.
In other words, either one or the other. My conclusion is at this point, any attempt to campaign for another party would risk throwing the Conservatives out of power and favouring Labour.
It's pretty clear to see that the Tories and UKIP are oceans apart and have no intention of any coalition campaigning for a future government. So to campaign against the Conservatives would be paramount to opening the doors to Labour. This exonerates me from party politics.
So a Tory eurosceptic MP such as Charlie Elphicke is, would stand a chance of obtaining a landslide victory.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
- Posts: 23,948
#11
ALEXANDER;
AS i'v said many times before, although the tories and ukip are not far apart
and realy ukip is just a protest tory breakaway party.
the next general election will see the lib dems destroyed as eveyone is saying and this will result even then of a hung govt(maybe threy should be lol
)
he was boo d leaving a meeting today
can this cobbled together govt realy go on much longer
ALL POSTS ARE MY OWN PERSONAL VIEWS
Paul Watkins- Location: Dover
- Registered: 9 Nov 2011
- Posts: 2,226
#12
PaullyB, the ALLTIME HIGH you refer to did not reflect in the election results they were swatted.
Both parties need the rump LibDem vote to form a Government.
Losing was the success to power.
Watty
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
- Posts: 8,115
#13
Let's try figuring out the possibilities. Keith.
At the last g, election, UKIP obtained 3,5 % of the votes, and is said to have deprived the Conservatives of at least 20 seats in Parliament, although some calculated a higher number of seats than that.
Now UKIP is at 7%, so at an election they could deprive the Tories of a much higher number of seats by splitting the anti-Labour vote. This could spell disaster.
T. Blair is still poking his nose in world politics, advising governments, amassing personal wealth in return for his intellectual counsels, for which he demands a high price.
So if he got back in Labour politics and, either as PM or as a "behind the scene counsel giver" took over power in our Country, and all through a Labour victory, where would we be then?
So quite understandably I'm figuring out what a LibDem collapse would mean, how it would effect our future Parliament, and what it could mean to campaign for a party that is for bringing down the Government and treats all three mainstream parties with the same contempt.
It could mean ending up with a Labour government and an all-powerful T. Blair with bags of private money dictating Britain's future.