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    our memories differ barry though i do agree about the crackpot causes.

    there is no comparison between ken and hatton, two entirely different characters.

    you refer to an anti blue upswell, that did not get him elected as he was an independent and the reds fielded frank dobson as their candidate.

    i lived there through it all and livingstone struck a chord with all different people despite the press slaughtering him.

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