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  My first wife was borne and brought up in Tottenham; when I started going out with her she was too embarrassed to show me where she lived - in a slum flat that was pulled down as soon as her and her Mum and Dad moved out and went to live in a flat in Broadwater Farm.
  It was brand-new, January 1971 I think it was when the first families moved in. A little old Lady who had been her (my first wife's) neighbour in Tottenham, moved there too and in the first week she was beaten up in the lift by a black kid and robbed of just a few pennies. She died a few days later, they never caught her attacker.
  It is an urban jungle round there, no doubt about it.
  
  Her attacker would not have been offended if you (anyone) had called him what Bob is being accused of - why should we be ?
  
  
  Jan, most of those colours you mention would be much less offended than we are - why is that do you think ? Why are we offended on their behalf ?
  
  
  
  
  Roger

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