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  Sorry Barry, we are at odds on this one. We can all site someone who does little to help themselves, my brother-in-law is a Heroin Addict so I have first hand experience. The MAJORITY of people do everything they can to be independant, often slipping through the net of support services which would be avalible to them, pride can be counterproductive. We should stop generalising, very often their is more to the individual and their needs than is evident, something I discovered when working for an agencies providing support to those in financial difficulty. It is very hard to keep a confidence when you hear someone having a uniformed rant about anothers lifestyle or circumstance! Of course their are some people who are constantly kicking the boundries of acceptable moral standards, but please do not make sweeping statments, they are in the minority. It also implies that you absolve those agencies who should be seen to be working to improve society and maybe we should be looking at their success rates and implimenting the same standards and expectaions to their "productivity". Who fails who?

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