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  Sadly I disagree with David H - clearly we vote and nominate and have a (reduced through lack of publicity) opportunity to attend meetings, but quite a bit of what goes on is done by unelected members or out of the public eye, and the lack of publicity about events and meetings is also a disadvantage. equally disadvantageous is the response at meetings - I have been to a few - I don't go any more and I am relatively assertive and upbeat - that have descended into farce because of the defensive and muscular responses of the members if challenged, even mildly. And responding appropriately to challenge IS part of the job if you assume management responsibility for anythning at all. It is considerably more complex than just "if you vote them in it's your fault".

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