howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
#1
Didn't have to think long about this - worst was the demolition of the Prince of Wales which future generations will not forgive us for when they look at photos, read up on the history and then look at what it was replaced by.
Best by far is the astonishing fund raising effort in a low income town to try and fund the urgent treatment for Kelly Turner, I would never have believed such an amount could be raised in a relatively short time.
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Guest 1792- Registered: 2 Jul 2016
- Posts: 111
#2
It's the turncoat Cllrs that future generations won't forgive ..Mr & Mrs Dover taxpayer didn't want the POW demolished ,,But agree with the amount of money Doverians have raised for Kelly ,really brings a lump to the throat
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Captain Haddock
- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
- Posts: 8,397
#3
howard mcsweeney1 wrote:Didn't have to think long about this - worst was the demolition of the Prince of Wales which future generations will not forgive us for when they look at photos, read up on the history and then look at what it was replaced by
Not that it makes any difference at this stage of the game but how exactly could DHB look to expansion without 'demolition' (I thought it was largely part of the new marina wall?)?
My understanding was that Eastern Docks had reached capacity and in the absence of loads of flat land as at Calais, or the building of the once mooted 'Westdock' towards Shakespeare Cliff, utilisation of Western Docks, with the infill of Tidal Basin and Granville docks was the only viable option?
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Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
- Posts: 8,397
#4
howard mcsweeney1 wrote:Didn't have to think long about this - worst was the demolition of the Prince of Wales which future generations will not forgive us for when they look at photos, read up on the history and then look at what it was replaced by
Not that it makes any difference at this stage of the game but how exactly could DHB look to expansion without 'demolition' (I thought it was largely part of the new marina wall?)?
My understanding was that Eastern Docks had reached capacity and in the absence of loads of flat land as at Calais, or the building of the once mooted 'Westdock' towards Shakespeare Cliff, utilisation of Western Docks, with the infill of Tidal Basin and Granville docks was the only viable option?
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Paul M- Registered: 1 Feb 2016
- Posts: 393
#5
I don't think anyone would argue with the brilliant community spirit displayed by Dovorians supporting young Kelly. Let's hope it continues in the coming weeks and months.
Also, the demolition of the Burlington eye sore should be celebrated.
On the negative side of things the invasion and destruction of the town by idiotic extremists and the mayoral sniffing scandal will hopefully be avoided this year.
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Ross Miller
- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 17 Sep 2008
- Posts: 3,709
#6
Bob - perhaps but it is interesting that at least one of the consultants report DHB got questioned the economic viability of their proposals as have a minority of the board members. Nowhere else has managed to make inter-modal freight work effectively even without the disadvantages the Western Docks have.
Yes the Eastern Docks was nearing capacity, but the current Western Docks proposals do little to address that other than move the fruit handling dock - without another berth and loading ramp being built capacity is still the same.
This proposal is more about Twaggot massaging his ego than anything else and senior councillors and officers being seduced by the proposal of a swanky new waterside development that may never materialise.
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Ross Miller- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 17 Sep 2008
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#7
As for the good - there are so many
Kelly Turner fund raising is amazing and shows the true level of human compassion in the town
Volunteer and Community groups who are making a real difference in the town - to name a few: Dover Big Local, Soup Kitchen, Christians in Dover (Street Pastors, outreach centre etc.), Age UK, Transition Dover, Men in Sheds, Dover Greeters, Lions Club, Rotarians etc. etc.
Dover Community Association taking over and renovating Biggin Hall as a community asset
Town Team working on building up the market and their proposals for Market Square
Destination Dover - bringing all the major tourism players in the town together to develop and build a united offering to make our town a destination
All the unsung, unlauded volunteers who just get on and help and do things to make out town a better place to live, work and play
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Guest 1266- Registered: 8 May 2014
- Posts: 381
#8
I just wonder why P&O are cutting staffing shifts and telling everyone its due to low volumes if the Eastern Docks really is nearing capacity.
Yes there are times during the summer when crossings are at capacity but this is often due to poor infrastructure, traffic management, strikes or bad weather.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
#9
In Ramsgate the bars, restaurants, bistros look out over a Marina. I doubt there is anyone daft enough to do the same here when their businesses would look out at some loading sheds and fork lift trucks.
Button
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 22 Jul 2016
- Posts: 3,109
#10
Capacity comes in a number of different guises. Post 8 refers to deck utilisation, post 6 to berthing capacity. There is also wet-side manoeuvring capacity and dry-side traffic capacity, the latter of which is often an issue, not least because ferries are bigger nowadays and compared with Le Shuttle's freight rakes.
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