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    Good post Ross - as you say, neither side have got all the answers; I do feel though that if the Conservatives could reduce the (financial) pain to the worse off, they would get more support.

    Reg and Keith's suggestions are the kind that got us into this mess.

    Howard your comment:
    "in 2015 people will vote in a government that offers less pain, we can be asssured that at the hustings all parties will have to bribe us to vote for them - net result - an ever wider deficit" is so true and confirms what Barry is saying.




    Roger

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