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  roger
  with regard to local councils in general realy all parties have been doing much the same it's not down to one party, its a very blinkered view if you believe otherwise
  i like to have an open mind on the good bad and ugly(wont put names to them lol)
  
  as iv posted before there are a handful of good hard working cllrs on both the two major parties on the district council
  
  
  as there are a handful of hard working cllrs on the alliance/labour benches
  
  it's all about what you believe in, and im not going to try to convince you otherwise roger, you come from the right of the tory party and that's fine, the same as im realy old labour and a lefty
  but realy im out of it all now
  just dip in and out when i feel like it and for friends only
  not political parties
  that said i do want the election of labour persons at every level
  i dont hide that

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