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  Thanks Ed, they both show how wicked the Bay of Biscay can be.
  
  It is a shame when passengers have paid good money, in many cases heard earned money, to take a cruise and then experience this.
  
  The Bay of Biscay is infamous even in the summer season, so will be much worse in the winter time.
  
  Jean and I went on the Black Prince a few years ago and that went through the BoB, it was a bit choppy but no real problems I seem to remember.
  
  Maybe cruises shouldn't go across it during the winter months, or perhaps further out to sea.
  
  
  
  
  
  Roger

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