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  so do we need the lay-bys just outside dover ? no advantage for dover at all
  has anyone been fined for dropping litter in the town centre like they do in westminster area ?
  and does anyone know someone who has done communty service ?
  last one i heard of was the comdian from maidstone fined after drink driving and then had to paint some grannys shed for an hour
  in america a famous pop singer was put out litter picking

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