Guest 699- Registered: 3 Jun 2010
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radio kent done a feature on litter asking the worst places in kent ---- and dover got a slating
the main routes a2 and a20 main route europe to olypmics and jubilee
all members of the forum brought this up about 2 months ago ----- nothing done
the editor of dover express used litter in his piece --------------------nothing done
the reason for litter is mostly lorry drivers and one word tachographs
they have to stop and find a lay-by ( perhaps now is time for us to close the lay- bys on a2 and a20 )
my answer is to get any one caught drink driving or will no insurance after the fine to have 2 nights litter picking we have said it over 2/3 years answer ------------------------ nothing done
so only one answer is to get the local mp , if he cares about his town get it sorted
in westminster have heard that even if you drop a cigarette butt , could be £`100 fine
so nice and tidy up the office !!!!!
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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I am not certain but believe that the Highways Agency is the responsible body on those main arterial routes and Charlie could/should apply pressure on them.
Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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These tachographs could be part of any solution, if they were collected and researched, the perfect/optimum stopping places could then be found.
Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
Keith Sansum1
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unfortunatly we have a big problem of education not just lorry drivers
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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this subject has been raised on here in the past as ron say's, nothing much the town and sistricr councils to do it is up to charlie and our county councillors to get together and get the situation sorted.
we cannot afford further embarassment when people pass through on their way to the olympics.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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I don't think it is a KCC issues, Howard - these major arteries are, I am pretty sure though not certain, Highway Agency, part of the Transport Ministry.
Guest 717- Registered: 16 Jun 2011
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If was not for the efficiently of the cleaning of the seafront it would be the same. Late at night I always see McDonald's or KFC wrappers laying just next to parking lines. People park up and simple leave it outside their car doors rather than walking 3 meters to a bin, just ignorant. The seagulls seem to like it though!
Keeps politics to myself
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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you're right barry i was mixing up kent highways with the highways agency.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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helen;
said that in post 4 lol
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Guest 697- Registered: 13 Apr 2010
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Not in any way surprised. Travelling abroad makes one realise that increasingly the UK is a nation content with leaving its litter all over the place. Any sense of civic pride has long gone. We can't point the finger at others until we get our own house in order.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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I agree with that Kevin, although I would say that we can do both at the same time.
We need to fine people for dropping litter - it seems the only way is to hit people in their pockets, education doesn't seem to work.
Once again, ZERO tolerance is what is required - on our road-sides, whether Motorways, trunk-roads or local roads.
Emailing Kent Highways (kent.highwayservices@kent.gov.uk) is worthwhile because they will pass it on the the Highways Agency.
Roger
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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yes roger i think we shouldn't give in, and should name and shame(im sounding like a tory lol)
on a side issue some people wanted to attend charlies surgery but told me he doesnt hold surgeries anymore, i looked up the association and his own web site and there are none advertised is this correct?
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Guest 699- Registered: 3 Jun 2010
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so do we need the lay-bys just outside dover ? no advantage for dover at all
has anyone been fined for dropping litter in the town centre like they do in westminster area ?
and does anyone know someone who has done communty service ?
last one i heard of was the comdian from maidstone fined after drink driving and then had to paint some grannys shed for an hour
in america a famous pop singer was put out litter picking
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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i am pretty certain that nobody has been fined or prosecuted in dover for dropping litter.
lay-bys we have to have, cars breakdown and people get tired or feel unwell.