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    Alexander - first of all no-one is talking about reducing past pension accrual so it is certainly not confiscating a part of their future assets. What is suggested and quite rightly is reducing the future accrual. This is no different to what has been happening in the private sector. It is essential as the present system is unaffordable. Personally I would go a lot further with future accrual than the government as I do not see the very modest changes as sufficient to stop this arising again.

    I should point out that taxpayers are effectively funding over 85% of public sector pension provision with the employees covering the cost of 15% or less.

    You advocate theft, Alexander, plain and simple - either you have no idea about the dire consequences of what would happen if you got your way or you do not care. I suspect the former.

    Bern - I do not question the intelligence of that poster or that he is well meaning, I just point out bluntly without mincing my words that he is wrong. Personally I think that is more respectful than dilly dallying around trying to say it in some 'soft' way.

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