howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
the uk border agency pays out £.941 million pound a year to suppliers in order for them to carry out tasks for them.
the biggest pay out is £.96 million to g4s(formerly group 4 security) to run detention centres and ancillary duties, their main rivals serco recieve £.44 million.
mauritian based vf holdings pockets £.45 million for processing visa applications.
three french companies pocketed £.106 million for varius duties including providing childcare vouchers and arranging flights home for deportees.
this is not a final figure as costs borne by councils all over the country are not taken into account.
no wonder winter fuel allowance is being cut.
Ross Miller
- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 17 Sep 2008
- Posts: 3,707
sorry do not see the causal link
I think your argument is specious
all of these companies will have had to competitively tender for the work and in most cases will have been the lowest cost tenderer - if they did not do these activities then the state would have to do them,, which would no doubt have cost more. Without many of these activities then our border controls etc. would be non existent and no one would be removed and everyone allowed in.
Really nothing to do with winter fuel allowance
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Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Of course you are right Ross; it seemed to me that Howard was pointing out the cost of immigration and because it costs so much, other things have to be cut - like winter fuel allowances.
If these people didn't get here in the first place, I'm sure the costs would be much less than it is and wouldn't even involve some of those bodies.
We need a much more secure border control and more officers to ensure the illgeal immigrants don't get here in the first place.
If we can't stop any from the EU, we must be more capable of stopping those from outside the EU - currently, it seems, from North Africa.
But, another argument could be: why are we such a draw for all these mis-placed and persecuted people ?
I think we all know the answer to that.
Wringing hands and saying "Oh Dear" will get us no where.
Roger
Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
roger,i think you find it two differant issues,with the legal eu migration and the ileagal migration from outside the eu.no matter how tight our borders are some will still get through.
Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
- Posts: 23,942
yep brian;
and no one is wringing there hands
only this govt

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