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    Here here Ian, I totally agree.

    I woiuld defend my home and my children from such abuse, and so have others before me and it has lead to a terrible end, in their own death or to have to take their own life, or prison themselvs, because some people don't have the respect of others anymore, it worries me, to think how it will be in a further 5 years time if we can not get a grip on this.

    For me it is parenting, discipline and good old fashioned virtues of patience and good-manners. Bring back national service (though I am too young to know about itbut I do know of the resutls) and capital punishments (stocks in the market square would be welcomed)

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