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    Barry - you must know that conviction (or much honesty) doesn't play a role in the Labour Party, otherwise we wouldn't have ended up where we are with this debt around our necks that we're suffering from.

    Tony Blair or Gordon Brown didn't have any real conviction in any of their policies, just a wish to stay in power; they detached themselves from the working man and the working-class man, years ago. I don't Ed. Minibrain is much better - he's working for the unions.


    Roger

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