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    Keith - you need to be more patient and give someone a chance to see a post and to answer.

    Murder rates in the UK have risen from 0.68/100,000 of population in 1964 to 1.42/100,000 of population today. (Home Office figures)

    In the USA the trends since 1930 are very interesting.

    From 1958 the number of murders increased while executions fell. Many States re-introduced capital punishment after a few years in which there were no executions. Since 1992 we have seen an increase in executions and we can see over the last several years a huge fall in murder rates. The long time that can be spent on death row must be allowed for in this but the trend is clear.

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