Keith Sansum1
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5 November 2010
14:4178616Well a special election court has found Andrew woolas guilty of making remarks against his lib dem canddate and the court ordered the election to be re run.
Having been involved in many elections in my 25 yearsin politcs im sure we can all identify personal leaflets far worse than the one A Woolas put out
(look at the dscraseful tory leaflet on g cowan for instance)
A Woolas will be appealing the press now saying the pending bye election the lib dems have lost some much credibilty since beng part of the cobbled together govt and are unlikely to repeat the gen electon result
opnion polls showing them well down
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Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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5 November 2010
15:2278619Keith - Its Phil Woolas, not Andrew and he is a shadow minister appointed by Miliband in a colossal error of judgement.
I wont say more on this now because I have already written my blog on this subject and will not give it away. I will upload it this evening including a copy of the disgraceful leaflet.
5 November 2010
15:4278622Barry W, Was Phil Woolas appointed by Ed Milliband or Joanna Lumley??( You see Barry I can be impartial when the need arises)
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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5 November 2010
15:5878628He certainly got a roasting from Joanna Lumley before the election!
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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5 November 2010
15:5978629A key test in cases like this is whether the allegations are true or not. I don't know whether Mr Cowan made a song and dance about the Tory leaflet but if he didn't, there are surely inferences to be drawn.
Can someone tell me how I can arrange a roasting from Joanna Lumley? Or Felicity Kendal for that matter?
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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5 November 2010
16:1278633yes gordon did complan
but the point is being missed here and yes barry once your blog is up on ths subject i will reply.
we need to look deeper and not just maket this another anti labour tribe stuff
i often open up on here and this im on the tory web site!!!
getting back to the leaflet if it was misleadng nearly every leaflet misleads that goes out from every party.
Roger(if hes honest enough to say so) wll recall the elms vale rec fiasco
there were many differing views on it
but once stated new equpment going into elms vale rec at the local electon the lb dem put out a leaflet stating thre lb dems had saved elms vale
this was from a candidate unklnown in the ward, not involved in the community
very strange leaflet
but was put out to give the impression the lib dems had saved the playground
when in fact the candidate never got hmself involved in the community.
I could go on
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Guest 703- Registered: 30 Jul 2010
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5 November 2010
16:2078638It's going to be a very interesting election (not sure if you can call it a by-election given the circumstances), very close in May
Phil Woolas Labour 14,186
Elwyn Watkins Liberal Democrat 14,083
Kashif Ali Conservative 11,773
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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5 November 2010
16:2178639the man is a cad and a bounder deserving of a good horse whipping.
the trouble is most propaganda that comes through the door have glaring inaccuracies, it is assumed that we are all too thick to know what is going on in the world.
if they just stuck to telling us what they had done and what they intended to do they would not end up lining the bottom of budgies cages.
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5 November 2010
20:0678705Funnily I chatted with him briefly a couple of weeks ago on the House of Commons Terr. where he was having a fag with Laura Sandys MP for Thanet South.
Also crossed swords with him over "The Calais Jungle" and other local Immigration issues whilst he held that Ministerial position. He knew his subject but turned nasty very quickly when cross questioned.
Watty
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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5 November 2010
20:1078707shouting "allah akbur" at him might not have helped paul.
i find most politicos get defensive if they are not sure of their position, especially in a one to one situation.
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5 November 2010
20:1978709Ahh Wooly Woolas - the man is a prize cock - shouldn't be put in charge of a shoe shine stand far less a government department
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While loving someone deeply gives you courage" - Laozi
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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5 November 2010
21:3678718get straight to the point ross, tell us what you really think of him.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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6 November 2010
11:4778761I have no knowledge og him, but i do question the involment of the courts in these issues, As I said i look forward to seeing all the future leaflets and barryw and co producing them all condemning them
might be long wait lol
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Guest 640- Registered: 21 Apr 2007
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6 November 2010
13:0578762BarryW has reproduced one of the notorious leaflets used by Woolas and you can see it over on his blog right now Keef. Ive stuck my tuppenceworth in over there too. I think the courts had to be involved this time because of wild racial type allegations and murmurings and suggestions and innuendos.
However all mild by American standards but then we dont want to go that route.. after all ..we're British...fair play and all that !
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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6 November 2010
13:2278764always unwise to play the race card at elections.
politicians seem to forget that ethnic minorities do not vote en masse, they have the same variation in opinions as everybody else.
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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6 November 2010
14:2278767Oi thought you were Oirish, Paul?
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
6 November 2010
15:1878772Howard, substitute blue David for Phil Woolas and you are getting close to a definition of a cad!!
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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6 November 2010
19:2778825jimmy
you are being a bit unfair on the blues, i can remember when ted heath got together with arthur scargill and cut the working week to 3 days.
no other government has managed that since.
