Terry Nunn
- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 4,321
#1
Betting shop that is. According to Carol in the Cabin Newsagents, the workers were already busy very early Sunday morning. When I walked past in the evening they were still at it. Reason being, it's due to open on Wednesday.
Still, as I mentioned before it's in the right place being just opposite the UnWorking Men's Club. I can just imagine it now, a steady stream crossing the road be-hatted with cloth cap and leading a whippet or lurcher!
Terry
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
#2
i saw them working on it the day after new year's day, hard to imagine another betting shop surviving in dover town.
Ross Miller
- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 17 Sep 2008
- Posts: 3,709
#3
Sadly the one growth industry we dont need
It is along with payday loan shops and independent fried chicken outlets one of the prime indicators of the economic travails of an area
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Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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#4
I don't agree Ross, betting shops are not a problem on the High Street - apart from the cigarette butts outside them.
I know there is an argument that they affect the poor and weak-minded, but so does sweet shops for a diabetic and a pub for an alcoholic.
I agree about pay-day loan-sharks/shops, Brighter-homes and similar, but they are all legal business enterprises that keep the proverbial High Street alive - which we need.
Roger
Ross Miller- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 17 Sep 2008
- Posts: 3,709
#5
You are missing both my points
1. There are already too many betting shops in Dover, do we need more? Do we want more? Isnt it about time that local people had a real say over development?
2. The academic study by LSE & London University showed a direct link between deprivation and betting shops/independent fried chicken outlets/pay day loan shops - the higher the number of them the more economically deprived the area.
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"Being deeply loved by someone gives you strength,
While loving someone deeply gives you courage" - Laozi
Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,931
#6
I think you are wrong Terry, it is there for the Kingswood Court residents to pop to with their zimmer frames.
BTW is there another betting shop in that area of the town I can't remember.
I think it looks a lot better than the tatty looking Cherry Tree pub that was there before, one so called vice replaced by another.
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Terry Nunn- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 4,321
#7
Yes Jan, Corals are just three or four doors away!
Terry
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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#8
You could argue Ross, that there are too many cafes in Dover, or too many charity shops; market forces usually decide whether that's the case or not.
It's not so much missing the point(s), as disagreeing with it/them.
We go up to St.Albans fairly regularly and it is a pretty afluent Town and they have quite a few betting shops, but then I guess there's always exceptions.
Roger
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
#9
any unit filled must be a good thing even if we don't use it ourselves, businesses study the demographics before making decisions where to open.
Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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#10
Market forces, or tax dodges? It is pretty much a free shot in the dark for such as WH. Any loss on their investment will be made good by being offset against tax liability, as it is with supermarkets.
In the latter case this mitigates against any independent enterprise opening up in the grocery line.
It is neither market forces not market dominance, it's down to engineered advantage at a high level.
What do you think anybody is going to pay £250,000 for a dinner date with Dave for? The pleasure of his company, or the advantage to their own?
Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
Guest 730- Registered: 5 Nov 2011
- Posts: 221
#11
Who on earth uses all these betting shops. I suppose it's better than being empty but what a shame it couldn't remain a pub. And is there really enough business for two betting shops within a few doors of each other.
Guest 714- Registered: 14 Apr 2011
- Posts: 2,594
#12
Theres 3 in Pencester, that makes 2 William Hills in Dover, the first time they've been here. You very rarely see a bookmakers close, they make vast profits from the machines, far more than traditional betting on horses, dogs and football.
They won't have opened without due diligence, think positive it creates jobs and people love gambling, just look at how many lottery scratch cards you can buy at checkouts.
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,931
#13
Does anyone know what the upstairs area is being used for?
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Guest 852- Registered: 3 Jan 2013
- Posts: 8
#14
I have an interview for a job at the new cherry tree william hill... so Im not complaining!
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#15
good luck phil.
