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  Of course poor performers should be managed out and there are policies in place to do so, which are followed by good managers but that is a seperate issue to pay and conditions. I'm not really arguing that in the past some "difficult to manage" people have been booted sideways and upwards but I can also assure you that staffing matters are being clamped down on (at least in my department) and that those occurances are very rare these days, if they happen at all. But as mentioned before this is a seperate issue from pay and conditions and just as it is unfair to penalise those lower paid workers because of the bad press given to the fat cats it is also unfair to penalise those good lower paid workers for the poor ones.

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