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  this argument about collective and individual means nothing to the average citizen.
  
  all most of us care about is employment, health, education and the lowest taxes possible to deal with this.
  
  our leader mentioned that the beer and sandwich days at no.10 are gone, of course, that was 30 years ago.
  the public have changed, that does not mean that the labour party should not give more time to it's core support.
  
  whilst they continue to fail to do this, then extremist parties will step in.
  
  much the same can be said of the conservative party. they look like winning a general election by default.
  most of the labour hierarchy have admitted this.
  
  the core blue support is anti europe, yet the leadership is pussy footing around the subject.
  
  should be fun when boy dave gains office and the knives come out.

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