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    Howard, one of the problems is the fact that the 1951 convention allows asylum seekers from civil wars (which have become endemic in the past 50 years).

    Look at the English Civil War (1641-1652). Population in UK C. 8,000,000. Deaths C.800,000. Roughly 1 in 10.

    In those days no-one had the opportunity to jump on a plane and claim that they were living with a well founded belief of persecution!

    I'm awfully sorry but to quote Hobbes 'the life of man, solitary, poore, nasty, brutish, and short.'

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