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    You are right there Phil and I am sure that Ministers know that. This. I suspect, is another reason behind the 40% level, to drag out ideas deeper into budgets.

    But there is more going on behind the scenes.

    I would start from a zero base. In other words expect every single job and function, along with the way a functuion is carried out, to be justified in cost/benefit terms. That will be forced on reluctant departments by the 40% demand because they simply will not be be able to default to an easy route cutting the easiest things only. It is very clever tactics.

    i just wish they did not ring fence health and overseas aid. Both would benefit from this exercise, even if the actual budget leveles did not end up being cut the money would be spent more effectively.

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