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    Several points -

    A fox caught by a pack is killed quickly and cleanly
    Even the best marksmen will sometimes miss to wound a fox so it slinks away and dies a slow death
    Shooting will kill the fit and healthy fox indesciminately, hunting tend to cull the sick and lame
    To claim torture is itself crass and stupid as is the claim that hunters are sadists
    Guzz - I agree who are we to dictate how foxes (or hares /rabbits, whatever) are killed, my point exactly

    I repeat - people are too soft and mollycoddled theses days and view nature and animals with far too much sentimentality. I am not in favour of cruelty to animals, hunting is not cruel per'se.

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