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    Cider is taking over I think but here goes.

    Barry, you have posted some cr** in the past #8 beats them all. A gamekeeper or marksman will shot a fox between the eyes and it is dead straight away the same with rabbit and deer. In the distant past, as now, a hunter stalks his prey, he does not chase it with a pack of baying hounds.

    I am going to enjoy my free range turkey that was humanely killed by the butcher who reared her, yes I even know the sex.

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